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Do you know who decides the All-Pro team? I'll give you a hint. They type for a living. Not evaluate talent.

Absolutely positive. Bryan Scott blitzed from the Nickel almost exclusively. The only time he blitzed from Safety is when he was pulled up in run support. McKelvin was 0/2 on blitzes and he only played 9 games I believe. If the Bills blitz their corners only 5 times in a season, were in for more trouble than anyone knows. Part of blitzing a corner is not just to sack the QB, but to keep the tackles honest. I was an assistant to my father who was a BLESTO scout for the majority of his career in the NFL. He worked with Jack Butler (former steeler, now the head of the combine) for many years.

Who is Brown? And Drew Brees is 6'0. That doesn't mean the rest of the league isn't filled with QB's who are 6'4 and taller. There is always an exception to the rule, as I stated in my original post. There have actually been many smaller CB's who have turned out to be good blitzers. But the majority are bigger. The majority of fans are very ignorant people. I am responsible for what I write, not what you understand. There is a reason why Marv Levy said "If you listen to the fans, eventually you wind up sitting next to them."

Who is we? Others have come to that conclusion but I surely haven't. I spent the better half of my life around other BLESTO Scouts and NFL FO personnel and I can tell you first hand that NFL teams use the nomination list as a general guideline of the upper echelon players of they league. The final Pro Bowl roster is never used as an indicator of anything. In fact, most NFL GMs will tell you that it is useless because at that point it is simply a popularity contest. When speaking of upper echelon players, we refer to them as "Pro Bowl Quality players", not simply a list of Pro Bowl selections. Therefore No, we haven't established anything. Other's have their opinions. I have my beliefs based on my life experiences and i'll stick with that. The only way to evaluate a trade is to evaluate a players performance with their current team VS what the trading team received in return. Even if Peters played every single game, he still wouldnt be playing at the level his contract indicates that he should. Demetrius Bell had a much better season than Peters in 2011. And made 1/5th of what Peters made. That's simply fact. Florence didn't bomb last year by any means.

You're welcome. I wrote N/A because I don't want to speculate as to why other people see things the way they do.

I didn't realize that. My apologies.

Fitzpatrick hasn't been nominated, so no.

#1) This thread was started 2 days before Florence was cut. Just because you recently got to the party does not mean that the party just started. #2) People like you make the mistake of thinking we already have X amount of Y position and therefore we shouldn'tnt sign another Y. Proffesional teams do not think that way. They look at any player that holds the ability to improve their team. There are starters, depth, and situational players. All are needed on some capacity to be a successful team. For what it's worth, I don't see Brooks transitioning to be a quality blitzer in the NFL. #3) We don't have a single quality blitzing CB on our roster. Not a one. The NFL is not just about the amount of each position you have. It's about skill and situational match ups. I haven't seen the playbook in question, but I assure you that there is not a coach in the NFL who doesn't blitz CB's.

Bell was a good player and he should have been re-signed. He had 1 false start and only gave up 1/2 sack through 8 games last season.

Fair enough LOL.

I would disagree with you. I think it's just as prestigious. There is not an NFL coach, GM or Scout who consider the final Pro Bowl team a measure of a players skill. BUT, there are many who see the nominated list as a general guideline for the upper tier of the league. Everything after the nomination stage is simply popularity.

It was a mistype. I said that immediately after someone pointed it out to me. I never meant that he was an all-pro. But let me tell you something. Being nominated is just as prestigious as making the Pro Bowl. Any coach, GM, or scout will tell you that. Being selected to the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. Either way, I can't help but think that those who are attacking my mistype are simply trying to deflect from the fact that Jason Peters was not handled poorly by the Bills. Yes it does. That's exactly what it means.

A Pro Bowl nomination is often considered as more of a measuring stick than making the Pro Bowl. Earning a Pro Bowl big is a popularity contest. Being nominated is an indication of your skill as one of the top 10 at your position in the NFL.

As being a Pro Bowl quality player, yes. There is 8-10 centers nominated for the entire NFL every year. There are 32 teams. If you're nominated, your considered one of the top 8-10 centers in the entire NFL. Does that count for nothing. Seriously? LOL. I did laugh.

2011. Google it.

Actually he was nominated to the Pro Bowl but was put on IR and IR players can't play in the Pro Bowl. Less? Sure. But not by a ton.

I meant Pro Bowl. Mistyped.

Thank you. I don't think Ron will be an effective blitzer in the NFL. I hope i'm wrong. If you watch Brooks tape, you will see why people have categorized him as a soft player. The reason is that whenever he is going up against adequately larger than him, he doesn't bring the same tenacity as he does against the smaller guys. YouTube highlight reels show just that - highlights. And even in those you can see that the majority of his big hits were against receivers and RB's of his size. In the NFL, the average QB is around 6 foot 4 and over 210 pounds. That's why in college you see a lot more thundering QB sacks than you do in the pro's. Secondly, in the pro's you're most often not going to show that your blitzing your DB in a man-man formation as you do in college. You're going to be pulling DB's back, zoning the QB, and blitzing hard off the end. This creates a problem for many college blitzers who try to transition their game to the pro's. In college, pure speed would get you there. In the pro's, this technique not only gives the blitzing CB 5 more yards to cover but he also has to beat a much faster and more agile tackle or blocking RB. Last but not least, if you look at the best blitzing cornerbacks in the NFL, you see a pattern. They're mostly bigger guys. Adrian Wilson, probably the best pure blitzing DB of the mid 2000's is 6 foot 3, 230 pounds. Charles Woodson 6 foot 1, 205 pounds. Eric Berry 6 foot 212 pounds. There are the rare player like Coleman who are smaller and turn out to be good blitzers, but they're the exception - not the norm. In case you're wondering, Brooks is 5'10, 190 pounds.

Completely disagree. Peters wanted a huge contract and Philly gave it to him. They're paying him $60 million. Now that he ruptured his Achilles, he will have missed 22 games since he joined the Eagles only 4 years ago. He averaged 1.5 holding penalties and 5 false starts per year. He has given up an average of 4 sacks per year while with Philly. To put those statistics into perspective, Demetrius Bell had 0 false starts, 0 holding penalties, and gave up only 1/2 a sack last season. Chris Hairston had 2 false starts, 1 holding penalty, and gave up 4 sacks. In other words, Bell and has pitiful contract put up better numbers than Peters. Hairston and his pitiful contract put up the same numbers as $60 million Peters. In exchange for Jason Peters, the Bills received the Eagles 28th overall pick. With that pick the Bills selected Eric Wood. He is a Pro Bowl Center and we signed him to a $9 million contract. We effectively traded a good LT who wanted $60 million for a good Center who signed for $9 million. And our LT's are putting up similar or better numbers than Peters is in Philly. I would say the Bills made a very prudent move.

Buddy Nix is one heck of a swindler. Love it. “Hell no he’s not a guard.. He started 50 games and the last 16 were at left tackle. We put it out there and tried to spread the rumor that he was a guard to hope somebody wouldn’t take him." - Buddy Nix http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2012/05/04/mayock-on-bills-draft/

Very possibly. He is the worst DE on the team right now and I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make it through Training Camp.

No thanks.

This is a common misconception by fans. "If such and such team couldn't use him, how could we?" It's a logical fallacy. Different teams have different needs. And teams often make mistakes in releasing players. Think about this: If the Bills couldn't use him, why would the Vikings want Pat Williams and Antoine Winfield? If the Colts couldn't use him, why would the Broncos want Peyton Manning? If the Texans couldn't use him, why would the Bills want Mario Williams? If the Falcons couldn't use him, why would the Packers want to trade for Brett Favre? If the Chiefs couldn't use him, why would the Falcons want Tony Gonzalez? If the Bills couldn't use him, why would the Saints want Jabari Greer? If the Chiefs couldn't use him, why would the Vikins want Jared Allen? Different teams have different needs. Being deep at a position does not mean we are good at a position. The Dolphins are "deep" at QB, but they're not very good. I'm not surprised. Technically I wasn't the scout. I was an assistant to my father who was a BLESTO scout. LOL.

I think Brooks has tremendous potential to be a very good CB. And I think he will manifest his tenacity over the middle with smaller receivers like Welker. I like the pick a lot. I just dont see him being a blitzing threat.

You must be thinking of someone else. Florence had 11 penalties called against him last season, and only 1 was for defensive holding. 3 of them in the Cinci game. Neutral Zone Infraction, Offensive holding (on a punt), and Illegal Use of Hands. 2 against the Giants. Both pass interference. He actually apologized after this game and said the loss was on his shoulders. 1 against Miami (first game). Defensive holding. But it was overturned when the play was ruled uncatchable. 1 against the Titans, Unnecessary Roughness. Same penalty was called on a Titans player. Penalties offset. 2 against Dolphins. Unnecessary Roughness and Pass interference. 2 against Pats. Illegal Contact, and Personal Foul (after the play).