Rocky Landing

My second ACL, yes. My first? Not so much...

Chargers look a little jumpy with the game swinging their way. That need to calm down a bit.

I think that type of hyperextension doesn't generally result in an ACL tear, but MCL, and meniscus, and tendon strain. (I'm not a doctor, but I've had four knee surgeries, including two ACLs...) This may not be season ending, but not being able to bear weight at all (as reported by the announcers) is a very bad sign.

Rashee Rice with a hyperextended knee by what would be a low block by... Patrick Mahomes. I hate when a player gets injured... but I'm having a hard time feeling bad about ithis...

This "first read" stat that is being brought up is useless, and utterly without context. Will Levis, eh? I imagine if Tua were still on the field, he would lead the league in that stat. Perhaps if Allen were getting sacked, or holding the ball too long, or throwing it away constantly, I'd look at that as something meaningful. But he's not. If you're using that stat as some sort of proof regarding our receivers, I think you're stretching. I think back to week two where Josh ignored his first two, wide open reads to hit Ty Johnson at the one yard line. I'll take Josh Allen throwing to his best read over his first read as he sees fit all day long.

The simple answer to that question is Josh Allen. But really, it's not a good question. The balance between run, and pass, and the offensive scheme in general has been different for all six halves of the season thus far. And we are paying a WR a big contract. He just doesn't happen to be playing with the Bills.

After watching TNF last night, I'd say Daboll has done pretty well to keep them in that game with Danny Dimes at QB.

Easily the most important takeaway from this list is that Shakir has more yards than Diggs.

Not sure why I'm bothering to respond to this, but... why not? Entirely SUBJECTIVE??? I don't think so... On Shakir emerging as #1 WR-- most targets, most receptions (at 100%, no less), and most yards of all our WRs is a pretty objective indication. Actual numbers. On Coleman getting fewer targets than expected-- seven in three games, all but two of them in week one. Again, actual numbers. Hollins being used as a role receiver. Has he not? Down-field blocking, drawing coverage in the RZ, etc. This is what we expected, and it's what he's done. (Maybe that's a little subjective, but so what?) On Samuel not been nearly as productive as many had hoped. There was a lot of hype surrounding Samuel, his ability, and familiarity with Joe Brady's offense. I don't know how you would deny that. I wasn't buying it, but there were some here who thought Samuel was going to be the #1WR on this team. Six receptions in three games. Actual numbers. On MVS' 50% comp rate, and lack of production. OK... ya got me there. Five targets, two receptions. That's actually a 40% comp rate. But still, I think I can objectively say (using actual numbers) that's not a helluva lot of production. BTW- not sure why having a subjective analysis is such a bad thing in the first place? Actual numbers, or not. You can't really say that you've been objectively cherry-picking those stat lines you've been using to pursue your narrative. And honestly, regardless of who you've been "debating," to come out and say, "the question was always whether they had a SB worthy WR group..." is simply untrue. What it really looks like is you moving the goalposts because it SUBJECTIVELY looks like some of our WRs (at least by some actual numbers) might exceed your projections.

He definitely tried, but it was getting away from him. I started yelling "FALL ON IT!.. FALL ON IT!.." from my couch, as Jag players were closing in. Certainly sweeter for Solomon that it was a turnover.

To the bolded, that is significantly moving the goalposts. The question throughout this thread has been how well the WR would perform. Many of your own posts have centered around how this WR group would project, based on past performance. The Super Bowl has been mentioned very little. In the context of this 127 page discussion, it is perfectly relevant to start evaluating the WR room, even if it's only based on three games. So far, it would appear that: Shakir is emerging as the #1 WR Coleman, while promising, has gotten few targets (as expected). Hollins is being used a role WR (as expected). Samuel has not been nearly as productive as many have hoped. MVS (with his continued 50% completion rate) has not been nearly as productive as many have hoped.

It’s entirely plausible that the Fish, Jets, and Pats* could ALL be looking for a head coach at the end of the season.

We need a guy who will catch everything thrown his way, and have the athleticism to get some great YAC. Someone who can work the entire field, and consistently get open. A guy that no one thinks can run to the boundary, but has actually done it numerous times. Someone that Josh can develop some real chemistry with, and become his leading WR, but still somehow fly under the radar. Wish we had a guy like that...

Elite.

There's a big difference, though. Neither of those players lead their teams in targets. Vele has been inactive since week one (injured, I assume?).

It's unreal. How long does he do this before he starts getting mentioned as one of the elite receivers in the league? When do we get to start talking about him as elite? I'll just go ahead and say it: Khalil Shakir is elite.

I want to reiterate something I pointed out in the post-game thread: Khalil Shakir is our leading receiver with 14 targets. Out of those 14 targets, he has made 14 receptions for a completion percentage of 100%, three games in. I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere in the media, and I'm not going to go through 31 other teams to get their receiving stats, but I kinda doubt that there is another receiver in the league who has done that.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if PFF mistakenly factored Trubisky's performance into Josh's grade.

That was a perfect pass that went right through his hands. Not the kind of ball that a lot of RBs generally get thrown, though... so I can forgive him...

I was thinking something similar-- that it was great to have such an extended period of garbage time (almost an entire half!) to get some of the depth players out there, getting snaps in a real game. Bishop, Andreesen, Solomon, and quite a few others got some quality game time. They even had Codrington at CB. That's valuable for our depth.

Khalil Shakir has been targeted 14 times this season (highest targets of our receivers), and has made 14 receptions. That's a 100% completion rate, three games in.

Rodgers has a long history of disrespecting his HC. He used to openly swear at Mike McCarthy from the field. I remember Rodgers yelling ," you're f******g stupid!" on SNF. That's likely why he loves OC Nate Hackett-- he'll answer to Rodgers before he answers to Saleh. The Jets have a culture problem.

Patriots* O-line is such a disaster.

I met Aaron Rodgers once on an ESPN gig, and I thought he was a pretty cool guy. But, man... he really looks like a dick here...

Universally recognized as owning the rudest fanbases for every sport played there. Do you really need an explanation for the asterisk in the spelling of the Patriots*?