Rocky Landing

Zack Wilson looking like a rookie with potential. He has ability-- but lots of stupid rookie mistakes, and poor situational awareness.

Good offense? I certainly didn't say that! I think there was a lot of hay made over the pre-season about how they were "installing a new offense," and its implementation was the reason Jones was struggling. But I don't think it's a different offense-- it's the same offense, minus a certain percentage of QB protection, and the play calling of Josh McDaniels. There are no new "wrinkles" here. Patricia, and/or Judge (or whoever the hell is in charge of that offense) didn't come into Foxboro with some innovative, or complicated offensive scheme. They just picked up wherever they figured McDaniels left off, and Mac & Cheese is expected to read defenses, and adjust at the LOS-- a task he is not up to.

Zach Wilson, who was drafted into an utterly horrendous situation, is ascending. If you watched Justin Fields the other night, with the poor O-line, and Chicago's poor receivers, he is ascending. Trey Lance showed clear promise before going down with injury. All of those QBs were given more responsibility than Mac & Cheese. He started off his career with the equivalent of a high school playbook, and was only allowed to take more control incrementally. He endured possibly the most embarrassing win over the Bills when he was trusted to throw the ball three times in the entire game. But, Mac is also not ascending-- he's dropping like a rock. Upon being given the full reins of an NFL offense in his second year, he has floundered. He is quite possibly being surpassed by Zappe. And in my honest opinion, when Mac Jones utterly panicked, hopping on one foot towards the sideline with an ankle sprain, he acted out his own epitaph. I do not believe he is fit for the NFL.

DOWN IN FRONT!

I don't agree with this. Neither does Joe Buscaglia. He had Brown with the highest grade on the O-line vs the Steelers with a B+. https://theathletic.com/3683801/2022/10/12/bills-all-22-film-review-steelers/ Quote: "Brown looks more like the highly effective player the Bills put into their starting lineup in his first four starts than the struggling player who made up the rest of his rookie year. That Miami game was Brown’s worst this season when he allowed multiple pressures in the two drives leading to sitting out the rest of the game [due to heat illness], but that has been the early anomaly to his year. It’s still early, and Brown needs to keep it going, but the Bills are likely feeling cautiously optimistic they found a long-term answer at right tackle."

Sometimes this site will double a post. I corrected it immediately after I posted it. I'm surprised how quickly you responded.

Isaiah McKenzie is one of the most versatile players on offense. Wide receivers are also expected to block downfield, and yes all 173 pounds of McKenzie is good at it. Not really the point of my post, though. What strikes me as shallow is the lengths people are going to downplay the value that McKenzie has to this team because of an infatuation with Shakir, who did have three terrific receptions against an opponent that we nearly shut out 38-3; "... the WR equivalent of Zack Moss..." Yes, that is shallow.

Zack Moss is one of the best RBs in pass pro in the league. That makes him especially valuable in a spread offense, and in many situations as a check down option. Lil' Dirty (get it right) is also an exceptional blocker, and is valuable not just in the slot, but for his athleticism on WR screens, gadget plays, and out of the backfield. Shakir is also clearly a versatile player, and will likely get plenty of snaps, whether he is named the starter, or not. I don't personally have a bead on Shakir's ability blocking, but I don't believe he has been too clearly tested in that regard. My inclination is to trust McD, Dorsey, and Allen (who is clearly given a lot of influence over play calls) over your frankly shallow take.

if you say so...

Obviously, as has been stated, GPS wouldn't work, as it isn't accurate enough. But, the technology is clearly there. The motion capture technology that we use in the motion picture industry is accurate to within a millimeter on stages as large as a football field. Also, the AI technology is certainly there to replace much of the officiating, and implanting a chip in John Hussey's brain would clear up a lot of bad calls.

And yet he drafted Mac & Cheese, and then Zappe??? What was he planning on doing with them? Are you suggesting that either of those guys were "NFL ready?"

This thread could be a case study on confirmation bias.

According to the police report, the guy (Ryan Zebley) received whiplash, headache, and possible minor concussion. It's not clear in any of the video if he hit his head, or not. Sure, he might be lying, and I'm sure many on this site will assume he is. But, the oft-repeated assumption that "no one got hurt" is just an assumption, and not supported by any source I'm aware of.

I looked a little closer at this video. It's been said several times on this thread that he was a photographer, but upon examination, I don't think that is the case. He's carrying a C-stand with what looks like a steady-cam rack, for resting a steady-cam when it's not in use. He's also wearing a backpack, which looks like it has some weight to it. I think this guy is a steady-cam assistant, and that pack likely had accessories in it which could have included batteries, focus mounts, matte box, etc. It's possible it could have had a lens, or two, but not likely. Could also have had a still camera. At any rate, the pack could easily have weighed 30 pounds, or more. A cameral assistant in this capacity is probably around $800 a day, give or take, and likely union affiliated. But, don't let the union affiliation misguide you-- someone in this job capacity has zero job security, and could easily have been fired for his misstep, regardless of fault, or fairness. Those items in the backpack I mentioned are all quite pricey, and likely owned by the steady-cam operator (assuming my observations are correct). EDIT: I looked this guy up, and he is a KC based photographer. (I don't know if he was working in that capacity, or not-- plenty, if not most assistant photographers/cameramen bill themselves as photographers, or cinematographers.)

OK, I'll start. Tre White is 27 years old, and a top five CB in the league (assuming he comes back in form). Have we really missed him? We did against the the Fish. We will on Sunday against Mahomes. I get the thinking, but I think you're placing way too much faith in Dane Jackson, and two rookies who may, or may not develop to somewhere near White's production. Lets wait until we actually have a top tier starting duo somewhere in Benford/Elam/Jackson before we trade away our best CB.

There is this narrative that goes around about "running quarterbacks," and how unsustainable it is. (Usually, it seems to be the fans of teams with decidedly non-mobile QBs who like to talk about this.) I think it's a myth. Think of the most mobile QBs in the league today-- guys who you think might take off running-- and you think of Jackson, Allen, Mahomes, Trey Lance. Then look at the quarterback injuries so far this season: Carson Wentz, Mac & Cheese Jones, Brian Hoyer, Tua, Bridgewater, Jamais Winston, Zack Wilson, Tyrod Taylor, Dak Prescott, Russel Wilson, Trey Lance. The most mobile QBs to sustain injury so far this season are probably Russel Wilson, and Trey Lance. And, I believe the only one that occurred during a designed run was Trey Lance. I think it's far more likely a QB suffers an injury in the pocket, and I think that the lesser mobile QBs would probably fare worse in that situation. I don't have any stats to back this up. Just my thoughts on the subject, but maybe I'm wrong. I often am...

McKenzie, especially for his size, has also been very good at blocking, and pass pro.

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If he gets a fine, or suspension, it's because professional conduct doesn't end when the clock runs out. The photographer was literally doing his job. It's akin to a flag. The fact that a player is sorry that he roughed the passer is irrelevant. You don't flag based on intent. Bowling over an onfield photographer is clearly stepping over the line of professional conduct-- much more so than roughing the passer, IMO And for all the people saying "don't step in front of the players..." understand that getting all those shots that we love to see is literally the responsibility of the photographer and the player being photographed. The NFL is a business, and quality coverage before, during, and after the game is intrinsic to that.

That is my point. Y'all making the case that Shakir > McK based on one game against a team we practically shut out. To claim that "McK hasn't done chit this year" is just not true, including in comparison to Shakir. And to say that Shakir "makes a few nice plays I've never seen mck make," is anecdotal, at best. McKenzie has had some great games in a Bills uniform, against much better opponents.

Are we assuming that OBJ will be cheaper than Davis???

He has 15 receptions in four games for three TDs, and a catch rate of 71.4% Shakir has 5 receptions in three games for one TD, and a catch rate of 55.6%. What are you talking about?

I know they were the correct calls. My odd point is that if Carr hadn't thrown those two passes behind the receiver, the PIs wouldn't have happened, and the defenders would have been in the right position to defend.

I appreciate Adams' apology. But if anyone was being a snowflake here, it's the guy who takes out his frustration on a smaller guy just trying to do his job, because they failed at theirs. It's the emotionally stronger man who can maintain professionalism, and good sportsmanship in defeat.

Shaw, I think the point is that your (and several others) opinions are highly speculative. There really isn't enough of a sample size to simply state that Shakir is demonstratively better than McKenzie. And using recent stats as "proof" really looks like confirmation bias when there are other games in which McKenzie has better numbers.