Rocky Landing

High risk/high reward.

Trading up for Watkins was a high risk/high reward move. That term, "high risk/high reward," means that there is the potential for high net gains, as well as the potential for high net losses. (In this context, I am talking about net gains and losses in very general terms.) What the analysts are seeing (and it certainly is debatable), is that the likelihood of net losses outweighs the likelihood of net gains. It's hard for Bills fans, especially during the offseason, to take off the rose-colored glasses. But, to just look at the potential rewards, while ignoring the risks is short-sighted. And, at any rate, regardless of how Watkins pans out, it's going to be very frustrating a year from now to spend the entire first round of the draft twiddling our thumbs.

Especially if what this team wants to do offensively is win.

Nothing will be proven until players hit the field. But, it is inaccurate to say, "they did nothing to bolster a weak against the run defensive line." Spikes? Schwartz?

These low marks really don't surprise me at all. From the outside, the Watkins trade-up really is a bit of a head scratcher. Nobody was saying that WR was one of our greatest needs. But, from Whaley's "all-in on EJ" perspective, it was a high risk/high reward move. In terms of value, it seems crazy. We paid a high price to replace our #1 receiver with another #1 receiver. And, we're not just betting "all-in" for this year-- we sacrificed next year's draft as well. But, every pick we made AFTER round #1 seems perfectly in line with this strategy, and with GOOD VALUE. So be it. I HATE that we traded away Stevie-- I'll admit it, I was a fan. I was face-palming at the Watkins trade-up. I think we paid WAY too much. But, all-in, means ALL-IN. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to gamble. In fact, it's one of my favorite things about football. I was always a little lukewarm on Whaley, but now I LOVE him. I don't agree with pushing in all of our chips at this moment, but, what the hell? Sometimes, you just go for it, and I respect that. There is no back-peddling with an all-in bet.

(...Deja vu...) Yay! We're winning the offseason! Again!

Manuel, Lewis, Dixon?

Personally, I was wishing we would have picked up a veteran already. But now, is there even anyone noteworthy left in FA? Or if there is someone on the trading block, what do we have left to trade? CJ? More of our picks from next year? Doesn't seem likely to me. When Whaley said, "all in," he meant it, for good or ill.

(...Deja vu...) Yay! We're winning the offseason! Again!

Like many who are suspicious of EJ's potential, I have made my peace with the "All In" strategy they are applying with EJ. I don't agree with the strategy, but if they chose the strategy, and then only went "Half In," I think it would be a bigger mistake. So, I am glad they didn't use up one of their picks on a QB, and instead worked at getting EJ more tools in this draft. The one thing that does bother me, is that we lost next year's first round pick. If EJ doesn't work out, we're in even tougher shape next year.

I think we should throw the ball to them.

Thought this was a football forum.

"All in" means "ALL IN."

Once again, we WIN THE OFFSEASON!!!

I have to believe this is a Pats, or a Jets fan on here to troll.

and Hogan, and Kaufman, and Roberson...

HATE THIS We trade up to get EJ a WR-- sacrificing next year's #1 pick-- and then drop out most productive WR for a #4??? This looks like a front office that has no long range plan-- just going day by day.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that there will be MUCH discourse regarding EJ's preseason performance come August. And, should you ever make it to Los Angeles, I will gladly buy you a beer at Buzby's (home of the Bill's Backers Club), if you are capable of refraining from participating in the debate.

I really try to look at these things in terms of current value. Yes, Buffalo got the man they wanted, and it cost them a substantial net loss of draft picks. Worth it? That is the unknown-- high risk/high return. Cleveland, on the other hand, got the man they wanted, with a net gain in draft picks. Hard not to see that as anything other than a good deal-- low risk/high return.

Not that I don't think this is a lame thread, or anything, but, why do posters on these boards so often refer to a differing opinion as a "crusade?" That seems like merely dismissive rhetoric to me.

I have absolutely no desire to debate Manuel ant further until we see more out of him in the preseason. But, it's weird to tell me not to debate Manuel while qualifying Manziel as debatable, for the sake of this comparison. At any rate, I was really talking about how well the Browns traded draft spots. They got the players they wanted (that was your point about not debating Manuel-- the player the coaches want) and they have set themselves up for next years draft with a net gain of picks.

Certainly agree with this. The Browns made out like bandits.

I'll say this: I am not happy about this trade. BUT, I was feeling pretty bored with the prospect of Ebron (who we debated to death), or Martin, or Barr, or Lewan at #9. I don't know... it's hard to get excited about an OT, or an OLB. This is some pretty risky, and exciting stuff. Watkins will be FUN to follow. I hope.

We seem to be getting heavy with baggage lately. Considering his current legal troubles, is it unlikely that he will still be there in the second round?

DON'T trade up. Maybe trade down for a good price. Then, BOPA. Not convinced that would be Ebron at #9. Martin, perhaps?