Rocky Landing

Please don't let Hunter go to the Pats!

This is going to e our year, guys. Mark my words. Tyrod takes the next big step, Sammy stays healthy all season, Clay catches a whole bunch of passes UP THE MIDDLE, Dareus and the defense returns to form, Brady* develops a debilitating hemorrhoid, Satan refuses to renew Bellichick's* contract and calls him to Hell. It's all written in the stars...

For the record, I've been on, and following this board since 2012. Although, I don't mind the new posters. In all honesty, it was getting a little dry around here with so many threads turning into page after page of WEO, Firechan, or some of the other usual suspects arguing with whomever had the energy. But, I get it. The football IQ has dropped a little lately. But, I have confidence that the level of discourse will pick up in due time.

No. Actually, I don't really see it as a problem. And they order things like Cosmos, and Sex on the Beach, and such.

This is what is usually referred to on this board as "an agenda."

Bah! You five-figure-guys are like a group of old bar flies who are pissed off because your dive is being taken over by a bunch of lightweight hipsters whose own bar down the street has been closed down.

If my predecessor showed up to stage and offered to give me pointers on how to light our sets, I would tell him, in no uncertain terms, to GTFO.

Tanking an entire season is a great way to build a winning culture.

A bottle of Jack...

A truer Bill there has never been.

And if he doesn't, and we don't, you get to say, "I told you so..."

Personally, I wouldn't put a number on this, because it really depends on who is available. And, as should be obvious to everyone, there ain't much available at the moment. (Hence, a discussion on the wisdom of acquiring Nick Foles.) I think the mistake is to scrap a team's current middling QB in search of a diamond in the rough. I don't fault anyone for the EJ pick-- it was a relatively low-risk pick, as first round picks go. We traded down for him, and he certainly, at the time, seemed to have potential to become something special. And, the idea of holding on to Fitz was a non-starter. But, it was the lack of Fitz (or even Trent Edwards, for that matter) that made the EJ pick so risky. Coming out of the draft without an established starting QB, even with one of those rare, superstar draft picks, like Andrew Luck (or RGIII!!!, remember his prognosis?) is shaky ground, indeed. We should keep Taylor, and stop looking for other, equally mediocre QBs to replace him. Draft a QB high, keep developing Cardale, and move forward.

Then you disagree with #7, as well.

Do you think Seymour is starting material?

I agree with a lot of this including letting Gilmore and Woods walk. I agree with many that losing Gilmore is risky, but we all know he will be asking a very high price, and I am of the mind that Seymour has a high ceiling. I'd like to see us get a solid #2WR in FA. Kenny Britt? I'm not sure I am too high on any of the QB prospects for the draft, including Trubitsky, and Watson, and I hope we don't reach too high for one of these guys. Hold on to TT. I haven't heard ANY reasonable expectation for any other QB, drafted or otherwise, that gives us a better 2017 season. And, I find the idea of writing it off, and planning for 2018 utterly depressing.

Seems a little similar to the Rams strategy this last season with Keenum/Goff, except that TT > Keenum, and Watson < Goff.

Is that his Mom?

You want to swap TT for Brian Hoyer??? For the sake of 8 million bucks? Seriously, that sounds like an utter drag. Are you sure we couldn't coax Kyle Orton out of retirement?

Is there a suggestion here that only the Bills score points in "garbage time?"

I think just about any reasonable scenario where they bring in someone like McCown would be as a replacement for EJ-- not necessarily a rebuild.

Sincere condolences. May you and your family find peace.

Written without a shred of irony...

To be fair, on both teams.

...no...i guess not...

He's actually the Pats* #2 WR.