Rocky Landing

At this point in time, we would be literally competing to tank. Get over it. We're not tanking. We have two first round picks in the next draft. We have plenty to trade for if we need to. Anyone who thinks we're tanking is not paying close attention, or is blinded by their own agenda.

That's right. He's with Cleveland now. Let's talk about him instead...

Who was the last Bill nicknamed Tank? I can't remember.

Well, by that yardstick, 9-7 is likely a flameout in our division.

7 wins is a "flameout?"

It would be cool if he turned into a 2017 version of Brad Smith... (How's that for a useless, offseason debate???)

One point I'd like to make in considering Mills' situation last year is how good the other side of our line was. Richie is really, really good, and Cordy has the wingspan of a 747. And Wood is solid, as well. Miller is solid, and smart, imo, but not at the level of Richie. It wasn't hard for defenses to know which side of the line to attack on a blitz. Mills faced the lion's share of pressure, and that did not relent for 16 games.

With the departure of Gilmore, Woods, Goodwin, Hunter and Gillislee, I can see how someone who doesn't follow the Bills would think we were tanking. But, a "national reporter" should have a little bit more insight than a casual observer. It's all been said on this site, ad nauseam-- Gilmore's departure was all but a foregone conclusion. Woods wasn't worth the cost. Goodwin was fragile. Hunter wasn't versatile. We couldn't match Gillislee's offer. Etc, etc, etc... And, they've all been replaced, with the exception of Gilly-- although, one could argue that our two fullbacks will replace his production. The Jets are tanking. We are not.

I'm a fan!

I absolutely agree that Tyrod's mobility has saved more than a few plays, and often in spectacular fashion. However, I do also believe that some of those plays were saved from himself. I also disagree with your exaggerated view of Mills. He certainly started off the season terrible, no doubt. But, what I saw was someone that improved (albeit gradually) throughout the season. I know that's not a popular opinion. But, I wouldn't be at all surprised, or disappointed, if he started the '17 season.

I certainly wouldn't just place blame on Tyrod for the O-line issues-- that would be overly simplistic. But, would you not agree that some QBs are harder to protect than others? And would Tyrod not be one of those QBs? For the record, I'm not a Tyrod hater. There seem to be a lot of assumptions of an "agenda" on this site lately, in both directions, for anybody who compliments, or criticizes Taylor... There's a lot to admire in Tyrod, his mobility being one of those things. And, it's fun as hell to watch. But. I feel like that often translates into an unstable pocket that he stretches to the limit before it is really necessary, and I wish he would get that under control. I believe that if he could not drop so far back in his initial steps, and step forward into the pocket as he was reading the field, he could make a major improvement in his game, and change a lot of minds about his status as merely a "bridge quarterback," (which seems to have become an absolute given on this site). I also question just how much more difficult it is to pass protect vs. run protect. There are O-lines (the Packers', and Browns', for example) that excel at pass protection, and struggle in run protection. That assessment is from PFF-- I don't get ESPN Insider, as was referenced in this thread. (That same PFF analysis, BTW, had us ranked very close between pass, and run protection.)

Last year at the Bills @ Rams game, Bills fans were outnumbered by about 4 to 1. But, it sounded like a Bills home game. It's pretty hard to quantify that kind of enthusiasm. My father-in-law is a Pats* fan. He was at my house watching the last Super Bowl, and left he house pouting before they made their comeback.

I feel that he also stretches the pocket way too far, and never climbs up into it. Contrast the size of his pocket to that of someone like Matt Ryan, who will climb up into it to extend the play. TT's pocket is three times the size. How much harder is it to pass-protect when the O-line has to have eyes in the back of their heads to know where the QB is?

I remember a similar study several years ago. I don't remember the university, or where we ranked, but I do remember a similar smell of bullish*t.

I've worked on set with some of these people. I haven't worked with Costner, but he has a pretty good rep for being OK to be around, politics notwithstanding. Some that I have worked on set with: Sam Jackson? KING DOUCHE!!! Mariah Carey: BATSH*T CRAZY Rock & Spacey: TOTALLY COOL

so, you're saying we should have run the ball less? Because you cant have it both ways.

I didn't realize Holmes was a scrub.

Comic relief. In the Maclin thread, it was food. In this thread it's this guy.

This is just how it goes when you're a farm team for the Patriots*.

Starting offense is almost the same, though. At least, so far.

This is one guy who was probably pretty (quietly) happy that Maclin went elsewhere.

What kind of food does he like?

If someone could pull out all of the recipes from this thread and put them into a "Jeremy Maclin Cookbook," maybe throw in a recipe that included sour grapes, or something, it would be much appreciated.

i bought a propane grill and was disappointed with the temperature. I want my grill to go to 11, and it only went up to about 8 1/2. So, I took out the heat plates, laid in a steel mesh, and covered it in lava rocks. Now that SOB goes to about 15. Another unintended upside to that was that the lava rocks collect all the grease, and fat, and crap that falls off the food, and it cooks better with age. As I understand it, the Ravens have too thin a cap space to comfortably afford Maclin, right?I'd be pretty happy if we signed him or Decker. But, I think maybe there is instant team chemistry with Maclin.

If TJ Yates gets cut, I would take that as an indication that McD is comfortable with how well his system gets implemented, and that would be good news. And, if Cardale is showing any signs that he is losing his inconsistency, we should keep him, IMO.