Rocky Landing

Starting Peterman against the Chargers was utterly irresponsible. I don't see how that has changed much, except that the Colts are not as good as the Chargers.

Then re-watch the Chargers game. It wasn't just the interceptions that were the problem. The whole team played better with Tyrod under center. Taylor was the better quarterback and it wasn't close. And if you think there is a better journeyman out there, let's hear a name. But even if you can come up with somebody, it won't be someone who knows the system, and the coaches. Taylor does, and he has the respect of the team. The Tyrod Hate on this site is often unhinged, I swear...

I was at the Chargers game. I bought those tickets before the season started, and while I got them at cost, they weren't cheap. I may never forgive Peterman for that debacle. As for the people who are saying that "there is zero chance that Taylor will be a Bill next season," I have to ask: Why? If we draft a QB in the first round (which I would think likely), do we just throw them in the starting lineup, ready or not? Or, do we bother to develop them? I would hope the latter. Do people not see the value of having a veteran QB on the roster while developing a first year QB, regardless of whether they are starting? It seems to me that Taylor would fit that role perfectly, and he's better than any other free agent vet likely to be available, and a helluva lot better than Peterman. Unless you're interested in winning the game.

Losing culture. I guess it includes the fan base.

We don't want two good OTs?

You don't not know nothing about football.

Good points. But, maybe more to your point, is less the question of whether or not it is worth it to draft a QB high (I think 90%+ are in agreement that it is), and more of a question of how we manage, and develop that QB. For example, I would submit that Fisher (his record, and subsequent firing, notwithstanding) was wise to not start Goff right away, and that Goff has benefitted from sitting behind Case Keenum for a season. I just hope that we aren't stuck with Nate Peterman, and/or whatever low-rent, vet scrub is available, as our othe QBs. I hope Taylor is with us next season.

Who are you responding to? Is there anyone who is not advocating drafting a QB?

If we draft a franchise QB in the 2018 draft, we should have a vet quarterback on the roster who can start the season, and help develop the rookie. Ideally, this would be someone who was a consummate professional, knows the team, and the system, and can win some games while the rookie learns for much, if not all of the season before starting. If only we could find somebody like that...

IIRC, didn't the dildo perp get banned from the stadium?

If we see 100s if not 1000s of people walking funny before the game, we'll know it's happening.

Has there been a game in the history of the sport where the quarterback who played every offensive snap didn't have something to do with the win??? Honestly, at this point, you just seem bitter.

And it was only 1:34.

We got the ball back with 1:34 and got a field goal. I'll take it.

Of course, so did we...

And yet, Tyrod plays under the same OC and QB coach. Which of Taylor's bad throws are you willing to lay on them?

Bills are 9.5 point underdogs on Sunday. I wonder what the spread would have been with Peterman? Tatonka has become one of the worst trolls on this site.

What happens if we land our franchise QB, and the best thing we have as a mentor on the roster is Nate Peterman? Do we start the rookie and hope he isn't ruined by being thrown out there too soon? Do we go shopping for whatever vet is available because we've kicked TT out of the building? Finding a franchise QB is only half the question. How the coaching staff manages that player once we get him is the other half.

It's hard to take this thread seriously. That being said, I would like to posit a question that I asked in another thread and got no answer. For all those who want to kick Tyrod to the curb: Then what? Let's assume that Peterman is as bad as he has been (why would we not assume that?). And, let's assume that we use some combination of 2018 pick to trade up and draft out mythical "quarterback of the future." Again, then what? Do we start them fresh out of the gate, behind whatever O-line we have by next year? Do we shop around for some version of Brian Hoyer to sustain some level of mediocrity until our "QB of the future is ready to start?" Just how badly are we going to manage our high-draft-pick QB next year? However you feel about Tyrod, I'm gong to guess that we are going to miss him for the first eight, or so, games next season.

Getting old sucks...

There's a lot of hay being made that "Tyrod will be gone next year, so it doesn't matter..." But, really? With the exception of the bizarre notion that we "need to see what we have in Peterman" notwithstanding, let's assume we that we draft our "QB of the future" in 2018. Then what? Do we start whoever that is right out of the gate? Can we assume that whoever we get is going to be immediately NFL ready? (Like Peterman supposedly was???) Are we going to go out shopping for whatever version of Brian Hoyer might be out there, and start the career backup while out future franchise QB sits like Goff did? Would that be better than Taylor for another season? If we're really building for the future, it would be smart to have Tyrod playing for this team next season, and I have to believe he is pissed as hell. IMO, McD has mismanaged this situation about as badly as he could have. I certainly hope he is in full on damage control mode at this moment. This is the fork in the road, indeed. If McD can't get this thing back on track, I sincerely hope he, and his entire staff is canned at the end of this season, and not the obligatory Bills' two-year-coach tenure. It's hard to trust someone who has screwed things up this badly.

Or the fans who wouldn't mind seeing them win another game before the end of the season.

Well... you go back from that by doing what gives you the best chance to win... ... but I'm no expert...

You have a pretty loose definition of "great." You can't separate the first few minutes of the game from the ensuing meltdown that followed. And, correct me if I'm wrong: No member of the O-line threw an interception. A decent QB-- even a mediocre QB-- needs to be able to handle pressure from a breakdown in pass protection, whether that is taking a sack, escaping the pocket, or throwing the ball away. It's the same O-line Taylor has been playing with. A professional QB also has to have the metal fortitude to rebound from an interception that wasn't his fault.