Rocky Landing

Sure. And I'll say I do agree that he has improved as a QB since that game, at least, to some degree.

I've said, much earlier in this thread, that the five picks Peterman threw only told part of the story. In the first half of that game, confusion reigned. When Tyrod came out in the second half, the entire offense (not just the line) looked like a different team. You say that has nothing to do with Peterman's leadership abilities. You say that it doesn't matter who the QB was-- that any other QB (other than Tyrod Taylor), under the same circumstances, would have failed just as spectacularly. I call BS. You can blame the O-line. You can blame McD for putting him out there before he was ready. You can blame Tyrod for casting a spell, and charming the professionalism out of his teammates. You can blame Peterman for not having the ability to lead, or inspire his teammates. YOU DECIDE Facts matter.

Here is a shot of the pool I run at work. This gets me pumped.

To be fair, there are protocols that are learned from time on the forum. One of them is to use the search function, or just look at the current list of active threads, and see if the topic is being discussed in another thread (or, as in this case, multiple threads). Starting topics that are redundant crowds the forum, and this thread is egregiously redundant.

You don't think Miller has potential? I do. Also, are you assuming Groy is C?

That's what I want to know, too.

Bills fans, of course. We do it every year! GO BILLS!

Ain't that the truth! It's a potato sack race to page 100!

If I did it enough, I might begin to understand Wily Dog's derailed train of thought.

This is not a conversation about Peterman at this point, but rather a preposterous premise about our O-line having such a crush on Tyrod Taylor that they're willing to throw a game, regardless of who is under center. (Good God! My fingers feel stupider for having just typed that!!!) But, there is definitely an element of derailment here...

With all due respect, the constructive rebuttal would be that this topic is being discussed in multiple threads, and does not seem to offer anything new. Don't be surprised if the mods shut it down. Be that as it may, welcome to the board.

Well, let's break it down: Your premise is: 1) The O-line loves, and respects Tyrod Taylor, and believe that he should start vs. the Chargers. 2) McDermott benches TT in favor of Peterman. 3) The O-line is angered by this decision, and decides to not offer Peterman the protection that their jobs require. (Hey, they don't care WHO starts. It could be JOE BLOW for all they care! As long as it's not Taylor, they're not going to do their jobs!) 4) The game starts, and to plan, they ignore Peterman's leadership, and go ahead and let Joey Bosa, and the Chargers' defense destroy Peterman's first NFL start. And, you don't think this reflects poorly on Peterman's leadership in any way? For real??? Talk about embarrassing! Do you not see how astonishingly stupid this narrative is??? (Jesus, am I a fish on a hook, or what?)

Joe Blow is a true leader of men. Our offensive line would NEVER have done that to Joe Blow!

IN (Is that still a thing?)

Wily Dog has me on the hook on another thread. Can't seem to get that hook out of my cheek....

rookie...

Y'all need to step up your game!

That goes without saying. But, of course, it is not a real thing. I will say, also-- the accusation towards veteran Bills players, and their coach (and Peterman, for that matter) is offensive.

No, not really... This is what I meant when I said you were painting yourself into a corner with your narrative. So, I'll just step all over your freshly painted floor: If Nathan Paterman, a quarterback for the Buffalo Bills, is so disregarded by his own offensive line that they would intentionally (or even unintentionally, for that matter) not protect him against the likes of Joey Bosa, during an NFL game in which the Bills were still in playoff contention, because they were unhappy with LITERALLY ANY DECISION THE COACHING STAFF MIGHT MAKE, then that very fact represents a SERIOUS FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP on the part of NATHAN PETERMAN. Is this really the narrative you want to pursue???

This is a bizarre statement. Really, you're just deflecting because you don't want to answer the question. So, I'll ask it again: If you think the O-line gave up on Peterman (regardless of when "the die was cast") is that not a failure of leadership?

Then I'll ask the same question again: If you think that Peterman's poor performance in Los Angeles was due to the O-line giving up on him, is that not a failure of leadership?

I don't think it's a lack of love. It really just comes down to a choice between Streater, and McCloud. And, it's a tough choice! I think many feel that Ray Ray is a little more versatile, he was just drafted, and he had a great showing in preseason. He's also done some return duty in TC I think, right? Slight advantage to Ray Ray. Personally, I put them both on the roster, and am calling Kerley a surprise cut. (Hey man, they happen every year!)

Every party needs a pooper.

Collective result-- how many people voted for whom.

I noticed he made a point of mentioning the blue cheese. Man, this kid is coachable!