Rocky Landing

I don't know why you would make this assumption. He certainly wasn't going to roll with Tyrod, and I don't think anyone thinks that AJ is the future.

OK. But, NO ETHER!!!

I think we're going to be happy with the contribution Chris Ivory makes. But, I can't believe the used parts they're building this O-line with, and the utter lack of attention to WR.

I wonder how his productivity changes having The Duck next to him, instead of The Cog?

It’s OK, Thurman#1. Some of us know what the hell you’re talking about.

IDK, that's a lot of pressure. I'd feel more comfortable at QB. I think I'd be pretty good at holding a clipboard.

There are many industries that hold their employees to a code of public conduct. But, this issue especially speaks to how much the NFL is, by and large, a part of the entertainment industry. And, if there's any confusion as to why conduct would be held accountable in the workplace, just ask Kevin Spacey, or Louis CK.

1) Running Back 2) Emmet Smith 3) Jim McMahon

I'm not going to vote in this, but my take? Dawkins, LT- solid. Mills, RT- might be much improved with a QB who doesn't stretch the pocket, and move around as much as Tyrod did. Bodine, C- If McD thinks he's better than Groy, I hope he's right. Miller, RG- I am cautiously optimistic that he will turn into a solid RG. He's smart, and I thought had a decent rookie season before being derailed by personal issues. Ducasse, LG- Could there be a worse drop in talent than going from Gog to Duc?

I like Sammy Watkins. Honestly, I have a soft spot for anybody who's worn a Bills uni, and hasn't soiled it. But, to your point, in another quote from his interview, he said, of Andy Reid, "I've got to learn the whole route tree. My standard that he wants, he's called me out in meetings, which that's what you need as a player, and I take full advantage of all those things." That's deep. My biggest problem with the amount of draft capital that we spent on Watkins was that I wasn't sure his abilities, specifically YAC, were going to translate to the NFL, or the Bills team he was joining. Will Reid be the HC that finally knows how to use his elite talent?

A tale of two games. I was at the Rams game the year before, baking in that concrete wok that is Olympic Stadium, following the longest beer line I've ever endured at the tailgate. Bills fans were outnumbered by only about 4:1. I didn't even know there were that many Bills fans in SoCal. But, It felt like a home game. We were LOUD, brother! The Bills players said that, too. What a blast that game was. Taylor was at his best. I was third row at the Bills end zone when Hunter made his first catch as a Bill, which was also his first TD as a Bill. I was very close to Nickell Robey's interception, too. That was a thing of beauty. The Bills were clicking on that day. Well, the Chargers game was a helluva lot more comfortable. The tailgate was about 1,000% better run the the year before. In fact, everything regarding the logistics of going to that game was easier. Easier to park. Easier to get in. Easier to get a beer. I sat in the shade ten rows back from the 20 yard line. I was cautiously optimistic about Peterman starting. But, actually being at that game, I think, made it easier to understand that the five pics Peterman threw only told half the story. It wasn't just Peterman that stunk (and, make no mistake, he stunk). The whole team looked junior varsity. I'm not sure that perception translated to television. And, this is my biggest knock on Peterman: I'm not sure he can lead a team. What you missed in the second half of that game, was a team being led by its QB. That's not me trying to pump up TT- I certainly understand his limitations. But, in the second half of that game, they looked like a different team. And, here's another confession: I CAN'T WAIT for the Bills to play the Raiders in Vegas. I'm in my fifties, and married, with kids, but I will spend whatever it takes for decent tickets, book a room at the crappiest, and cheapest room I can find (and, trust me, they have some crappy, flea-ridden rooms off the strip), I'll take a Greyhound from LA, and spend four days on the deepest, depraved bender since my twenties.

I know there are two schools of thought on "character issues." Some don't really care, as long as they win games. I'm not like that, myself. I want to like the guys I'm a fan of, and to me, character matters. And, Winston is one low-character guy. I'm glad he's not a Bill.

Hmm. Kinda feel like we've already opened up that box...

Has anyone done Sunday Ticket on Roku?

I spent a lot of money for good seats at the Bills @ Chargers game.

What I would like to take from this is that Allen responds well to pressure. But, really, I'm not going to put much stock in it.

Was Rosen off pouting somewhere?

My father-in-law* is a hardcore Pats* fan. It was a pleasure to shower his grandson with Bills gear.

Simple troll.

I have always maintained that NFL football is the best way to get your family to leave you the #@&% alone for three hours on a Sunday.

Copy that. Context is everything. My bad.

Now that this thread has fallen onto pure semantics, I would nitpick the above, bolded statement. It is illogical. All 32 starting QBs are NFL caliber. The range that currently exists literally defines that caliber. Currently, NFL caliber would be defined as Brady*/Rogers, down to Paxton Lynch, or whomever is the crappiest, current starter. Taylor lands around the middle of that scale.

But, do we knead him?

What the hell are you talking about??? Do you really think that the millions of dollars spent on evaluating players entering the draft, and the people who spend their professional lives doing the evaluation have no idea what they're doing??? You may want to rethink that bolded statement!

Really, there are two separate philosophies. On one hand, you have the corporate model, which espouses the PAAC philosophy (profit at all cost). On the other hand, there is the philosophy that a football team provides a service that benefits the community as a whole (which includes the players, and the owners). Performance based contracts, or (as Oldmanfan suggested) lower salaries, would work well under PAAC, and does not hold ownership, or shareholders accountable in any way. IMO, if such a contract existed in the NFL, it would most certainly need comprehensive protections for players who suffer injury, and incentives to keep players from playing injured. But, I understand the frustration with players who pedal their efforts back after they land a big contract. But, I wonder if there weren't some more player-friendly (and safety-friendly) options that would help the same issues? How about profit sharing for players,and coaches? Perhaps a certain portion of each team could be owned by the community in which they reside, like the Packers' structure, but at a percentage? What people often don't realize about an organized labor force is that the labor force operates under the same economic pressures that the business does. If the company doesn't thrive, then neither do the workers. The more invested the labor force is in the product, the higher the motivation to put out a high quality product.