Rocky Landing

In my opinion (as a Bills fan living on the West Coast), the biggest problem currently with the NFL, as an entertainment medium, are the numerous streaming services now involved, and the issues with navigating that morass.

I've been under the assumption that there have been injury settlement negotiations going on behind the scenes. It feels like Tua and the Fish are playing a game of chicken. If Tua's is not allowed to play because of his injury, he gets paid. If he quits because of his injury, he doesn't. So far, neither side is flinching, and the NFL has declined to get involved (which is tantamount to siding with the Dolphins). And still, Grier, and the Dolphins have done nothing to shore up their porous O-line, and give Tua some modicum of protection. Instead, they will continue with their get-the-ball-out-of-your-hands-as-fast-as-humaly-possible offensive scheme. Maybe they're hoping that opposing defenses will be easy on him, rather than take the risk of killing someone on the field?

everything but the feces part... yuk.....

A lot of disagreement on the decision to rush two on the Hail Mary play. My two cents: The Jets actually have a decent O-line, in which they invested heavily in the off-season. Had the Bills rushed four, it's more likely than not that Rodgers still has the time to make the throw, and then there are two less defenders downfield. Rushing two was the right decision, IMO. Where the play failed was similar to the Hail Murray pass a few years ago. In that play, it was Hopkins vs. Hyde, Poyer, and White-- arguably the three best players on D at the time. They didn't come down with it, because each of them was going for the interception, rather than batting it to the ground. When Rodgers threw that HM last night, it was into a sea of blue, and everyone was going for the ball, rather than knocking it away. You can blame coaching for that if you want-- every defender in that end zone should have been playing D, not WR. Maybe they need a volleyball day at practice?

I actually really enjoyed this game. These two teams hate each other. And in the end, the Bills pissed in their punch bowl.

Saleh should've known better. You can't kick Rodgers' lapdog and get away with it!

I don't see the presence, or absence of Robert Saleh on the Jets' sideline as having much of an effect on the Jets' performance on game day. Maybe his absence will be less distracting to Aaron Rodgers? Rodgers clearly had zero respect for his authority, or leadership, and Nate Hackett has been answering to Rodgers over Saleh. The Jets have a culture problem.

I'm imagining the confused look upon the player's faces during the halftime speech...😐🤔😵‍💫🫤🤨😒🫣😲

The empty stands in Miami! Fish fans are the worst!

Chargers looking undisciplined.

You were saying...?

SHOCKER: The San Francisco 49ers are up 20-0 over the visiting Patriots*.

No, far from it. The first was clean. The second included a torn meniscus, torn MCL, and a tibial plateau fracture, and I walked on it for two weeks before getting an MRI. I believe that the nerve damage from the first surgery made me not realize how serious it was.

I've said since the beginning of the season, the Jets have a culture problem. When the diva QB openly disrespects the HC, and the OC answers to the QB before they answer to the HC, it's a major problem when the season starts to get away from them. With so much disfunction at the top of the pyramid, I'd imagine it would be pretty hard for the team to have a lot of respect for the team's leadership.

My second ACL, yes. My first? Not so much...

Chargers look a little jumpy with the game swinging their way. That need to calm down a bit.

I think that type of hyperextension doesn't generally result in an ACL tear, but MCL, and meniscus, and tendon strain. (I'm not a doctor, but I've had four knee surgeries, including two ACLs...) This may not be season ending, but not being able to bear weight at all (as reported by the announcers) is a very bad sign.

Rashee Rice with a hyperextended knee by what would be a low block by... Patrick Mahomes. I hate when a player gets injured... but I'm having a hard time feeling bad about ithis...

This "first read" stat that is being brought up is useless, and utterly without context. Will Levis, eh? I imagine if Tua were still on the field, he would lead the league in that stat. Perhaps if Allen were getting sacked, or holding the ball too long, or throwing it away constantly, I'd look at that as something meaningful. But he's not. If you're using that stat as some sort of proof regarding our receivers, I think you're stretching. I think back to week two where Josh ignored his first two, wide open reads to hit Ty Johnson at the one yard line. I'll take Josh Allen throwing to his best read over his first read as he sees fit all day long.

The simple answer to that question is Josh Allen. But really, it's not a good question. The balance between run, and pass, and the offensive scheme in general has been different for all six halves of the season thus far. And we are paying a WR a big contract. He just doesn't happen to be playing with the Bills.

After watching TNF last night, I'd say Daboll has done pretty well to keep them in that game with Danny Dimes at QB.

Easily the most important takeaway from this list is that Shakir has more yards than Diggs.

Not sure why I'm bothering to respond to this, but... why not? Entirely SUBJECTIVE??? I don't think so... On Shakir emerging as #1 WR-- most targets, most receptions (at 100%, no less), and most yards of all our WRs is a pretty objective indication. Actual numbers. On Coleman getting fewer targets than expected-- seven in three games, all but two of them in week one. Again, actual numbers. Hollins being used as a role receiver. Has he not? Down-field blocking, drawing coverage in the RZ, etc. This is what we expected, and it's what he's done. (Maybe that's a little subjective, but so what?) On Samuel not been nearly as productive as many had hoped. There was a lot of hype surrounding Samuel, his ability, and familiarity with Joe Brady's offense. I don't know how you would deny that. I wasn't buying it, but there were some here who thought Samuel was going to be the #1WR on this team. Six receptions in three games. Actual numbers. On MVS' 50% comp rate, and lack of production. OK... ya got me there. Five targets, two receptions. That's actually a 40% comp rate. But still, I think I can objectively say (using actual numbers) that's not a helluva lot of production. BTW- not sure why having a subjective analysis is such a bad thing in the first place? Actual numbers, or not. You can't really say that you've been objectively cherry-picking those stat lines you've been using to pursue your narrative. And honestly, regardless of who you've been "debating," to come out and say, "the question was always whether they had a SB worthy WR group..." is simply untrue. What it really looks like is you moving the goalposts because it SUBJECTIVELY looks like some of our WRs (at least by some actual numbers) might exceed your projections.

He definitely tried, but it was getting away from him. I started yelling "FALL ON IT!.. FALL ON IT!.." from my couch, as Jag players were closing in. Certainly sweeter for Solomon that it was a turnover.

To the bolded, that is significantly moving the goalposts. The question throughout this thread has been how well the WR would perform. Many of your own posts have centered around how this WR group would project, based on past performance. The Super Bowl has been mentioned very little. In the context of this 127 page discussion, it is perfectly relevant to start evaluating the WR room, even if it's only based on three games. So far, it would appear that: Shakir is emerging as the #1 WR Coleman, while promising, has gotten few targets (as expected). Hollins is being used a role WR (as expected). Samuel has not been nearly as productive as many have hoped. MVS (with his continued 50% completion rate) has not been nearly as productive as many have hoped.