WorldTraveller

Good catch. Sooner they realize this the better off they'll be. Unfortunately, as you've seen even here, the base doesn't see it this way. Having said that, you can see starting around the end of the tech bubble, Welfare dependency has risen sharply. The Great Recession caused an even more dramatic spike, however it is part of the Obama administrations plan to increase dependency, they see it as a form of stimulus that also helps keep their constituency more satisfied.

I think that's what he meant to say

"The federal government administers nearly 80 different overlapping federal means-tested welfare programs," the Senate Budget Committee notes. However, the committee states, the figures used in the chart do not include those who are only benefiting from Social Security and/or Medicare. Food stamps and Medicaid make up a large--and growing--chunk of the more than 100 million recipients. "Among the major means tested welfare programs, since 2000 Medicaid has increased from 34 million people to 54 million in 2011 and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, or food stamps) from 17 million to 45 million in 2011," says the Senate Budget Committee. "Spending on food stamps alone is projected to reach $800 billion over the next decade." The data come "from the U.S. Census’s Survey of Income and Program Participation shows that nearly 110,000 million individuals received a welfare benefit in 2011. (These figures do not include other means-tested benefits such as the Earned Income Tax Credit or the health insurance premium subsidies included in the President’s health care law. CBO estimates that the premium subsidies, scheduled to begin in 2014, will cover at least 25 million individuals by the end of the decade.)" This is not just Americans, however. "These figures include not only citizens, but non-citizens as well," according to the committee. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/over-100-million-now-receiving-federal-welfare_649589.html Yes We Can!

I'd settle for someone with a coherent thought.

I'm talking to the Peabrain, you know the one that's getting mocked by everyone.

Ahh, The I'm rubber and you're glue schtick... What do you expect from a peabrain?

So is this what Mr. Peabrain's '"surrender"' looks like?

Such hostility from Mr Peabrain....

Hey guys, I just wanted to remind you, if you're a conservative, you hate people who make less than $500k, that includes yourself too.

And don't forget that it is vitally important that in order to address the tax code, that we MUST see mitts tax returns.

Well again, I disagree, it is subsidizing. Providing a tax credit for a company is a form of subsidy . We're just basically saying the same the same thing over and over but repackaging it with different words. We will just have to agree that you're from Venus and that I'm from mars.

I'm not your friend pea brain .

I disagree, i believe if we want to have the best shot at being competitive vs china is not to continue throwing money into a sinkhole. We aren't going to be able to out subsidize china. They can afford the massive losses, they have a massive surplus, we don't. So you don't compete with them head to head on subsides that aren't paying a return. You beat them by investing in technology. We need to be much more efficient and develop this energy future by making it economically viable and the best way I believe we can do that is to pour even more money into R&D

Well I'm glad you're weeding out the men for your creepy quest for seeking boys. Whatever floats your boat

Makes no sense to you, and that's understandable, you believe in market intervention, which is similar to the argument we had the other day in the demarco thread. it's sorta like the women are from Venus and men from mars adage. We won't see eye to eye on this subject. The big difference however is I see the logic in the tax credits argument, I disagree with it, and history is on my side, but you're incapable of seeing the reason in the opposition to this philosophy even though the verdict is in.

Gugny is infatuated with the fat radio fella. Kinda creepy

Again, you're misinformed. He's not anti green, that's just you spewing misinformation yet again, the problem is that you aren't able to comprehend the difference between R&D and tax credits. You can call it "purity" all you'd like, if that's something that makes you feel good inside, by all means continue. So while you call it "asanine" , we are seeing the results of obamas green energy plans that rely heavily on tax credits and subsidies, and unfortunately for us the tax payers, the only thing that is "asanine" are obamas results on his energy policies. Why don't we just agree to disagree? Deal? And where do you get this idea that " I could care less about oil tax credits"? Link? Oh that's right, there is no link, again, your just making stuff up. That's becoming a habit with you. Again, long before you got here, I've made my position clear here on this board that I was against the oil tax breaks. But keep embarrassing yourself, it's amusing

Settle down there little fella, no need to get so angry. Newbillsfan is on your team

Only in like minded pea brains would one come to that conclusion

I don't care what past or current GOP politicians supported, I'm talking about my philosophy and how Romneys current position is more in line with my line of thinking. And I have answered, I don't believe we should be in the business of picking winners and losers, I believe that the market should determine if a business model is to succeed or fail. I don't support most subsidies, I believe it creates distortions and Disallocations in the market. I don't support the oil tax breaks, I don't support most farm subsidies.

Every time you begin losing a certain argument, you switch it to another argument. Nice clever tactics

Link?

I already told you light weight, it's a matter of picking winners and losers, and this point was argued by myself long before you ever showed up here at PPP and most people that are regulars on this site know this. But go ahead, continue to embarrass yourself. That's on you

Yeah, and I get that you're handicapped. No biggie

Is that what you got out of that? Ok, now I see I'm wasting my time with someone who is economically challenged