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Kids don't belong in bars. Not only for the sake of the patrons, but for their own.

I meant McNally. But at any rate, I didn't say 'he' sucked, but rather "the line".

And yet while he was here our line still sucked.

Exactly. The offense has been boring enough over the last few years that when combined with copious amounts of alcohol it's more likely to induce sleep than riots.

Throwing downfield is the "final solution" to the Bills offensive woes.

I'm pretty sure his reinstatement in the NFL had some conditions regarding alcohol and drugs. It could also be a violation of his parole.

I agree they shouldn't be unfocused, but they certainly appeared that way.

I'm hoping that the sloppy play last night was due to them being unfocused after closing camp.

I don't think anyone played well last night (save for a few 2nd and 3rd stringers). A few times the line held well though, and TE couldn't get rid of the ball. If he is gonna continue to make short passes, he may as well do them in under 3 seconds.

Stupar.

Too bad the O-Line rookies weren't the ones who kept holding onto the ball too long...

The more Mitchell tweets, the more I think he was in the 10-15 Wonderlic range. Also: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...troduce-maybin/

Sgt. Peppers taught the band to play?

Also - could we get a topic or two about Mike Vick?

Obviously you didn't see Ellis Lanksters...

Records of teams that player in the HoF game going back to the 2000 season: 2000: New England Patriots (5-11, NP) San Fransisco 49'ers (6-10, NP) 2001: St. Louis Rams (12-4, P) Miami Dolphins (11-5, P) 2002: New York Giants (10-6, P) Houston Texans (4-12, NP) 2003: Kansas City Chiefs (13-3, P) Green Bay Packers (10-6, P) 2004: Washington Redskins (6-10, NP) Denver Broncos (10-6, NP) 2005: Chicago Bears (11-5, P) Miami Dolphins (9-7, NP) 2006: Oakland Raiders (2-14, NP) Philadelphia Eagles (10-6, P) 2007: Pittsburgh Steelers (10-6, P) New Orleans Saints (7-9, NP) 2008: Washington Redskins (8-8, NP) Indianapolis Colts (12-4, P) Not too much you can derive from that, but if someone were inclined, you could dig deeper and see how those teams started out relative to their division opponents perhaps. My guess though, is that the extra game is a small factor in the success or failure of a franchise in any given season.

I recorded it while I was at the game so I could review this morning. I watched each of the plays from the first 3 drives of each team and was concentrating on the O-Line. No doubt Walker could have been called for holding on at least 2 plays. After focusing more intently on his play I noticed the following: He seems to stop the second the play moves away from him. Might be half-a$$ing it in the preseason. Let's hope that's the case (although it might get TE decapitated). He gets turned around too easily If he gets good position on initial contact he seems to be able to get good push. The o-line overall was sharper than last week, and they appear to be well disciplined, as I would expect far more holding and false start penalties given their lack of experience and the no-huddle being employed.

Good job, but where is Nikea's jersey? She needs to represent!

I'm surprised no one linked the story where a Republican Senator claimed that had Steven Hawking been in the UK he never would have survived due to their national health care.

You get what you vote for... 20 bucks say she gets re-elected. Any takers?

Believe me, a large percentage of us wanted you to be right. But at the same time, the frequency and (perceived) veracity of the rumors made it too hard to ignore. Case in point: One of my best friends (stood up in each others weddings) works directly with the Bills organization. He called me around 4-ish to state that his business contact at OBD called him from SJF to let him know Vick was in town. I realize to you, or any other poster, this may seem like simple hearsay, but given that this individual and I trust each other implicitly, I had no reason to question the validity of this claim. Furthermore (assuming my friend was telling the truth) I cannot fathom why a rep. from the Bills would say such a thing if it were not true. (Then again - I also can't imagine that a Bills rep would make any such call under any circumstances ) When I take that into account and add it to the tidal wave of rumors, you can only imagine that I (and perhaps others who heard similar claims from those who claim to be 'in the know') would have to assume there were some legs to this. That being said, I certainly do appreciate your efforts in debunking this tripe.

BTW - does anyone have a link to the Bills tweet?

I sincerely hope you and all of the credible people are right.

OK - I just got a call from someone with connections to the Bills who says that Vick is at OBD. Cheese and Rice this had better not be true.