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Do you have a time machine? You seem to be stuck in the past. Who gives a sh*t about how good or bad things were 1000 years ago. We are discussing a problem in the present that grows worse with each passing day. Radical Islam is spreading like wildfire and apologists like you are more concerned with trying to convince everyone that: a) there is no problem b) since other relions have been bad, there is no need to point fingers at islam c) this is just a reaction to oppressive policy d) all of the above The problem is, all of those answers are wrong.

While his examples may not be the best, understand his point: we are at war with Islam, or rather Islam is at war with us. I'm not hearing sh*t from the so-called peaceful members either. I used to think this was due to the loudest people being the only ones heard, but I think it's beyond that now. The moderates are too quiet, and everytime a muslim blows himself and/or someone else up in the name of allah, they always find some way to point the finger at someone else. "Oh, it's poverty" or "US Imperialism" or "the Zionist pig". Someone else is always at fault, and the West needs to start blaming their sh*tty belief systems and culture. It's unfortunate, because a lot of decent people are gonna die on both sides before its over. And from what I can tell there are 2 possible outcomes, and one of them is the global islamic community stepping up and fixing THEIR problems.

Well, it really isn't an over-reaction. They are merely following their precious holy text.

All of it might be for all I know.. But the point that Jesus rejected parts of the old testament is at least a partial truism according to some of his apostles, which were the people that helped create the new testament to begin with (after all, Jesus didn't write a bit of it...). But that's still getting away from the important point that if you look at what is attributed to Jesus in the manner of moral teachings and actions, it's hard to argue that he was not a peaceful man. Mohammed on the other hand was a violent conquerer. To say a religion based upon him as a being, is peaceful, is a pretty dubious argument. To avoid godwin's rule, I'd say it would be like modeling your life on the teachings and actions of Stalin, and trying to say that the ideology is a peaceful one. Just beacause you love Stalin, and you are peaceful, doesn't mean the system of beliefs is a peaceful one. It's just like I said before, the existance of !@#$ Christains don't mean it's a violent or extremist religion. The reverse can be said for peaceful, caring, moderate muslims. Just because they are good, it doesn't by default make their religion or prophet peaceful.

My bad... hand't followed the thread carefully enough. I too know many peaceful muslims. My family doctor is whom I trust implicitly. The non-extreme, peaceful followers are certainly the rule, not the exception. That being said, I think they don't represent the true meaning of Islam, much in the many many people think Catholics don't fully represent the teaching of Christianity. The "peaceful" snippets of the islamic holy texts aren't enough to counter the explicit calls for violence, especially when taken into consideration with the violent history of mohammed.

Ok, I had to counter the fallacy in your first statement before proceeding any further. By your logic, since Jesus said nothing about automobiles and computers, wacko evangelicals would be able to rationalize a ban on driving and computing due to the lack of comment on either subject by Christ? Just because someone calls themselves Christian, doesn't make it so. The whole point of Christ's teachings were peace, acceptance, and tolerance. Someone misinterpreting his work doesn't nullify the work, it just makes the person a retard. Secondly, Christ basically said to ignore the old testament stuff, so there goes the argument associating Christianity with the slavery, sacrifice, and violence found in the old testement. Lasty, Islam IS a violent religion. Forget what the books (Hadith and Quran) say, even though they advocate subrogation and violence against non-believers, and look at the life of Mohammed the doucheba.... I mean "Phrophet". The guy MURDERED people. He killed many. Sure he started out peaceful, mostly because he had no power or authority. But once he had those, look out. A violent Christian is a bit of an oxymoron. They are mutually exclusive. If you are one, you are not the other. Plain and simple. Islam on the other hand encourages violence. Both through the scripture and through the example of the creator of said religion.

How dare you insinuate islam is violent! Say that one more time and I'll blow you up!

I just got a Miller jersey for my birthday. At first I was dissapointed that it wasn't one of the new ones. After seeing the new ones... well... you can understand why I said "At first".

Yeah, I heard it too. Nice to hear Howard fired up in the morning. Well done JSP!

Finnally, something we can all agree upon. Class act all the way.

I don't know why Troy Vincent speaking would have any effect on the Pats, but ok... (I know you meant Law...) The point is, that Law raising a fuss, didn't help. Spikes making a stink also, will not help. He should know that. He is a professional. When professionals do stupid things, they take criticism. It's really that simple.

Oh snap.. you got him there. Listen, Spikes does deserve critisism for those comments. They were stupid. Especially "why don't they just put me on IR" nonsense. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Takeo is also one of my favorite players, and it makes it all that more annoying when your favorite guy on the squad says stupid sh*t.

Yeah, and the Pats obviously had their heads on straight for the upcoming game. What he said was stupid. He contradicted the coaching staff and doctors. They were dumb comments, and as a professional he should know better. Bench him? No effin way. Cut him? Ha... he is one of our best players. Settle him down and don't let his initial hysterics ruffle anyone in the lockerroom and everything will be just fine.

I've use my Mac as little as possible. For Video and Audio editing, it's great, but as others have mentioned, OSX crashes a lot. It's hella unstable, and as far as I'm concerned the environment is about as non-intuitive as it gets. Since I've been running PC's with XP, the opposite has been true. Not a single crash or driver issue. Ggranted I build them myself for the most part, so I am able to troubleshoot things before they become issues, but it's just easier to use my PC than it is my Mac. For a while I thought it was because I'm so conditioned to use MS operating systems. Most of my programming experience has been on PC's or on IBM (Mainframe/Midrange) systems. But I realized that my computer illiterate girlfriend prefers the PC to the Mac any day of the week. The other thing that kills me about Mac's (and all apple products) is that smarmy, hollier than thou attitude that seems to be rampant amongst Mac fanboys. I loathe going into the Apple store to pick up an iPod accessory or RAM for my Mac. Those people are downright haughty, as though they've discovered some new element, the properties of which have the inate ability to save mankind from itself. Once, at the checkout counter (I can't recall how the topic came up), an associate was berating internet explorer, saying how she couldn't believe anyone would put it on their computer, and MS was the devil(or something like that). When i asked her "If IE was so terrible, how come it is the default browser on every machine in this store, preloaded at the apple factory?", she had no idea how to respond. It was like the man came out from behind the curtain.

LAMP.... Me too!

Um... yeah. It's called "combat" and it sucks. I'm not saying the US hasn't been negligent in a few cases of friendly fire (hell we do it to ourselves sometimes... see "Pat Tillman), but it's not as thought it is done on purpose. When humans are engaged in deadly combat they sometimes make quick decisions for fear of their life, which often turn out to be the wrong ones. The military takes friendly fire seriously and usually does everything within its power to avoid it. Unfortunately, not all mistakes can be avoided.

Always. My roomate from college, never. Long story short, we flipped because he was driving like an idiot. I'm alive, he is not. Seatbelt totally saved my life, while his lack of seatbelt was his undoing, as he was thrown. Wear 'em people!

For starters, I'm not sure where they get off calling it lasagna pizza anyway. There are no noodles and all the other ingredients are standard pizza toppings. It looks like a thick crust/sicilian pie to me. Second, while Buffalo has the best wings, there are some pretty lousy pizza joint floating around out there, as mentioned before. I do love Airport though. They are probably one of the most consistant places we order from. Christophers is pretty good, as are Just Pizza and Franco's. Beyond that, Buffalo is hurting. My other major complaint is the hours of operation of nearly every suburban pizza joint in this area. It's damn near impossible to get a pie delivered after 11:00 PM, on any day of the week. Ridiculous!

He made foxnews and cnn. The same outlets that carried the breaking news of Erie County employees toilet paper shortage.

Well I used Cubans and Russians as examples due to the fact that they are or have been ideological opponets of US foreign policy. I just threw the Swiss in there for the hell of it. What were the terrorists from 9/11? Well, by birth most of them were Saudi's if memory serves me well. But ideologically these people held no allegance to their home nations, but rather to their sick religious beliefs.

Well, the article does state that multiple answers were given. But you are right, polls suck. If anything, it seems like one of those attempts to further divide people. That being said the "cause" can be traced back to a lot of things, but religious fundementalism IS the root. After all our foriegn policy towards other areas of the world hasn't always been stellar, and yet we haven't suffered any attacks on civillians from Cubans, Russians, or the Swiss.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/07092006/3/cana...lame-u-s-9.html "When participants were given the option of choosing more than one cause for the attacks, two-thirds blamed Islamic fundamentalists and their anti-Western views" So, 2/3rds of Canadians actually appear to have a brain, while 1/3rd feel Islamic nutjob fundies bear no blame. Thanks for the support gang... (I'm being a bit facetious here, but it just strikes me funny that 33% of those polled didn't seem to think the preponderance of the blame should be laid upon the shoulders of those who purposefully targeted civilians.)

Whats a good place around Buffalo to rent one? We live here, but kinda wanted to get 5 or 6 of us to go in on one together for a game. What does it cost for a loaded one for 2 or 3 days?

No, he isn't bitter. He just can't formulate a counter argument, and relies on (poor) one-liners when confronted with fact. He represents all that is awry with the internet. He is a troll.

Ok, I think I know who the drooling idiot is here... (and for the record it isn't the award winning, previous sports editor of one of the largest circulated newspapers, hall of fame comittee member journalist who is the only reporter to have covered every single super bowl)