Dan Gross

HFB, goat cooker! I'm sure no matter how old you get you will always be young....

Or who we shouldn't draft at number 8!!!

Reyes. Wells. We get 10 threads started here on Losman's haircut, do you think that somehow something would happen with either of these two and it wouldn't show up here?

Pentameter.

...with the penguin avatar....

She wants to move to New Orleans? Yeah, I would worry about what they're teaching her...

My understanding is that it won't be released until at least the Fall. I don't think anyone outside the NFL has actually seen the revenue share part. In fact, I think the revenue share part is still being finalized, which is where Ralphie's angst stems from....

As I said, the only "can't misses" are the ones that will already be taken at 8 and the ones we didn't pick at 8.

Really? Which leg? Heck, I don't even remember who we picked in the first round last year...

Well, since those numbers aren't too far off Eli Manning's numbers for his first 9 starts, and since there are no rumors about Favre going to NY, then I'd say yeah, it's the hair....

He has almost as many birthdays as you.....hmmmmm......

I'd be disappointed if they took a punter at #8. Or a long snapper. Or a 5'2" WR with a prosthetic leg. Other than that, whatever. They know more than I do.

Of course you could modify it as the old counting joke: "There are 11 types of people in the world. Those who can count in binary, and those who can't."

Um, actually 10 (binary representation of the decimal 2...). You must be of the latter group...

Heh, I'm a Conservative!

Yeah, but you're not "shitzngiggles," you're nobody. Deal with it.

You didn't just tell the 10 people here who actually bother to think before posting to stop doing so, did you?

Piece of cake. Everyone should trade down. That way no one has to pay top 10 money. You do know that the only players guaranteed to succeed with the Bills are either: a.) those taken before #8 and b.) those whose "draft value" projects ahead of the player we picked? (In other words, if we pick the 15th ranked player at #8, then picks 8-14 are "can't misses"). Exception to b.) would be if we took the "best available" player. Then the list of "can't miss" players in the b.) case would be all the players in one of our "need" areas that were picked later in the first round.

Ummm, yeah, that was kinda my point. except that his net worth is valued at $50B right now, according to Forbes (down a billion from last year, due as they say to the value of his portfolio plus the amount of donations made). Couldn't dig up numbers, but I knew his yearly income would amount to $100s of millions at most, and that his donations far exceeded what he made. My point was that the size of his donations would imply that he had to make a lot more money than he actually did in order to look at the donations purely as a 'tax shelter.' (and that's besides the fact that donation/tax break is not a dollar for dollar thing....). Beauty of the typed word...sometimes things you say get misinterpreted....

Damn, you hit the trifecta there bud. I'll pray for your collar.

Obviously if we're bringing him in here it can only mean one thing: we're drafting Vince Young. Or at least that's what we want to make the other GM's to believe we are doing with this move.

Actually, technically I was wrong. %age isn't calculated until after deductions. So you can affectively change your bracket through deductions, but again, if you are talking about tens of millions of income to start with, you're not moving out of the highest bracket with donations alone. I believe there is a 50% cap on deductible contributions (can deduct only 50% of income). But of course I'm not an accountant, just someone who did his own taxes a month or so ago....

That $540 is the net result of reducing one's taxable income by $2000. Remember that a deduction does not mean "deduct what is owed to the Gov't," (that's a tax credit) but "deduct the amount of taxable income that is used to calculate how much is owed the Gov't." Let's pretend this is the guy's only deduction (yeah, I know, he'd do better with a standard deduction, but whatever). His AGI (adjusted gross income, which is used to calculate what your tax rate is) is $50,000. That puts his tax rate at 27%. So that means his starting tax bill (how much taxes he's supposed to pay the gov't) is $13,500. From that $50,000 he can deduct certain expenses, such as charitable contributions. By contributing $2000, his taxable income gets reduced to $48,000. Multiply that $48,000 by 27% and you have a tax bill of $12,960. $13,500 - $12,960 = $540 off your taxes for donating $2000.

GantRules and GeoInPA made it to game 12 last year, where they both predicted a win against Carolina. From there their predictions went pretty poorly.... Two years ago it was the week 1 loss to Jacksonville that killed most of the participants.

Use the example given, why don't you? So the person gives $2000 and receives $540 in tax breaks....as KD said...your point?