ExiledInIllinois

Due to my error and what was perceived to be my incendiary behavior, I apologize. Just so it's on record that I answered your reply with facts. I did... But it disappeared due to a few misteps I made. Please... I am replying to a poster... Don't delete it. Okay... Let's try this again. There is more plastic leakage into environment after bag bans... Thicker bag consumption goes up ~120%: https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2019/04/09/711181385/are-plastic-bag-bans-garbage Plastic leakage into environment: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0095069618305291?via%3Dihub People's personal habits are pretty set in this graph. After 12 months... Those habits are engrained, the bottom simply doesn't drop out with those thicker 4 & 8 gallon bags. Now... A 4 & 8 gallon Hefty® bag is way thicker than a plastic grocery bag. FWIW... This isn't about me on a crusade. I am just arguing the other side of the argument... We make these mistakes all the time by not thinking things through while following our hearts. Bans aren't the way to do it. Changing people's behavior withOUT drastic bans is the way. Same with all kinds of other issues. More harm is done with these shocks to the system and people's behaviors. Sorry to preach... I will tone down the rhetoric.

Oh... I am busy... I gotta breakdown my mutiple Amazon boxes I got today... Should I burn then in fireplace or give them to the government/private company (we have private company garbage collection here) "paper drive?"

Yet... Meat in a plastic bag becomes "one-time" if it leaks... Ain't gonna pack your espadrilles in them for in ontop of your clothes in the suitcase for that Cancun trip. NOW... WITH that being said... Is it so hard to stick it in the recycling can? No... The recyclers do NOT want them. It gums up their sorters. It's all about $$$$. And LABOR. Don't automate the process. I still stick them in the recycling can. Yet, I stick them in other plastic containers. They hate that too. Tough. Invent better ways to recycle. I am doing my part, going the extra mile "hyper recycling."

Guess who gets that money now... The garbage company as they cut labor, automate trucks, separating facility and stagnate wages... All as your garbage bill goes up because our labor is free to separate the garbage so others can choose to recycle. Yeah... Save the planet my arse...That's what they say. Sustainable conservation methods would probably work better. NIMBY Canada ships it's garbage to China. Hope you're a Vegan and don't buy meat with those bags... You wash them, right? Stop mass producing them... The evidence is in. People use thicker, worse bags...

Yeah... I don't either... But you can take a glance at what it's doing down the street. Pretty low brow... I know. But it's okay to be engaged. Better than clueless. But clueless is cool in today's world, God forbid we watch what's going on. Yup... Silly stunt like the soda tax in Cook County. That lasted long.

When we started separating garbage a bunch of years back... Our bill went down. Then they added garbage to Our water bill. I take people weren't paying and they were sharing 92 gallon toters with neighbors. The bill is creeping up to where it was. When it reaches that old number... I won't separate my garbage anymore. It's all going in regular garbage. This isn't about the environment. It's about making $$$$. Don't give me a garbage bill... And I will gift wrap every piece... 40 years ago... In Scouts, we had "paper drives"... Who's getting that money today off the backs of your labor? Separating your garbage... And you're being charged a bill. We got the Big Guy talking hoaxes... Follow a garbage truck on garbage day.

No people are irresponsible. They take the bag, they don't need to. Corporations aren't acting irresponsible. The comsumer is if they throw them unused in regular rubbish. The recyclers are too. No reason why you can't put bags in when you separate your garbage. The recyclers are just too lazy to handle them. And they are under staffed picking up at curb. Only one guy driving and picking up. Why they want stuff loose in toter... Then recyclables blow all over town. Once again... War on labor. Forced automation. Yup. All all a scam. I see them mix it.

Who uses them a single time... That is what is wrong with people. Even if they get fouled... Recycle them.. BUT consumers are lazy... And the recyclers even lazier because they don't want the headache. That's why they are being banned... Oh yeah... "Save the earth." Yeah right... “The three R's – reduce, reuse and recycle" There is no "B" in there for ban. Watch, now they will b-word that too many paper bags are taking trees... Isn't that why the plastic came in to use 40 years ago. Wash your Chinese multi-use bags that are made in a cesspool by slave labor... When they fall apart, just have them make you a new one. What's really the bigger footprint here?

Yup... Such a shame... Sorry about your mom. Those 1,000 bags are terrible for environment. I swear, you think these braniacs would have learned. I get the intentions... It's an aesthetic thing with them. Miserable people... True... The slobs of world should be reigned in. Who thows them right out after bringing their groceries home? Unconscionable is what the person does with it. It's on the consumer.

The bags aren't single use. They are multi use. Nice spin. Single use... LoL... Reuse them. Problem is recyclers hate them. They tangle the machines. It's 2020.... We can put a person on moon yet... We can't figure out how to not tangle a machine with a bag. Nothing but a $$$$$ grab. They recyclers want to pick and choose what we separate. They want the good stuff.

But they usually don't trust Gilligan... He just always messes ***** up. They try an insulate the him. Yet, disaster follows him.

Of course it doesn't crumble... But the data is in. More plastic waste for the environment. Thanks Oregon for actually hurting the environment with NIMBYistic ways.

Are they free and can you use then multiple times before they find their final resting place? What's footprint to make, produce... Some cesspool in China?

And when you buy those bags... Do more harm because the plastic will be thicker that ends up in the environment. And of course, used only once.

It's stupid... Enviro do gooders doing more harm. As usual, the road to hell is paved with good intentions: It will hurt the environment even more: https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2019/04/09/711181385/are-plastic-bag-bans-garbage My 84 year old MiL is fit to be tied... She never bought garbage bags in her life... Always reuses, repurposes... She throws out her garbage daily in one bag. Most people will now by thicker bags, worse for the environment... All because a few slobs can't take care of their mess and do gooder enviros think they gotta be helicopter parents with the earth... I save them too... I will just bring her a year's supply. There is a person who uses them to make sleeping mats for the homeless... The ban is squeezing them out: https://www.1millionwomen.com.au/blog/diy-crochet-plastic-bags-sleeping-mats-homeless/ Like everything w/Greens... It's a $$$$ grab that backfires and causes more damage.

Nice! LoL... See, we can find happy accord!

Konami Code... Is that like KonMari method? Oh wait... Nevermind, I think I got my Japanese "kons" mixed up. Carry on...

That's who I first thought of... ...Oh, children, if you're watching... DON'T get old, you'll regret it:

What the hell is a stone... In 'Merica! We pass those through the kidneys. I thought we were already on the English system... Now they pull this crapola... /smh... And don't make me Google the stone conversion... Thanks... Just reading back. She looks heavier than +112 pounds in her after pic...

1a., 2a., 3a., 4a., 5a. OR anywhere you can damn well squeeze it in: Atari

How can he have shot himself when he swore he didn't have a gun? Somebody give him one... And if that's the case... Is it murder if you give a suicidal person a gun?

I thought it more of a "Ladle handle." ??? We took our honeymoon in Seattle, June of 1994... Had two full days of crystal clear Mt. Rainier days... Friends we were with there said that was unusal. Then moved on to Victoria, BC... Which is out of that convergence zone... Victoria, absolutely gorgeous... Then through the heart of BC on to Alberta, Jasper, Banff... Then back through the arid part of WaState... Via Yakima... To Seattle-Tacoma. Don't think it rained once the whole two weeks.

Oh... You're a "mere pratt of a lad" alright! Don't let anybody tell you otherwise, that's rubbish! J/K... Cheerio, Good-Bye, Toodle-oo, Hip Hip! ?

But that's not a sustainable business model in today's world. People "need", fresh, bigger, more exciting... Theme rides, etc... There is only one way to keep up with maintenance and people's attention. Move to the model which Disney started. *This doesn't mean I agree with this. It is what it is. Amusement parks need a constant infusion of cash, capital to keep them going, maintained, upgraded... Etc... Or they get stale. You want to pack food, go walk in a town park or head to beach.

Nice!!!!! Always good to let people know your intentions. We raised you well! Have a wonderful time... Thanks for letting us know where you are young lady....YOU know, so we don't worry about you. Just like going on a hike... We'll send out the Snow Patrol (in this case, Beach Patrol) if we don't hear from you after the 29th.