ExiledInIllinois

Not watching.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2025/02/08/bears-coach-dick-jauron-dies-former-yale-lions-bills-dave-mcginnis-nfl

"Dick Jauron, a Peoria native and the head coach of the #Bears from 1999 through 2003, has passed away. He was 74. The NFL's Coach of the Year in 2001, he also was a HC for the #Bills. Jauron played safety in the league and was a legend at Yale." 😔

It's probably because the POTUS will be in town and there's gonna be restricted airspace over NOLA... It will be shut down. If people can't get into town, tix prices will drop. BigWigs with private Jets, forget about it. I guess they can drive in: Houston is 5 hours Mobile 3. Baton Rouge 1... But NOT sure what the restrictions will be there.

***** the SuperBowl!

Any links to his speech?

Do you think if Lions didn't get bounced and made it... The calls in Chiefs game would have favored Bills? MAYBE... Both championship games should be played at the same to kind put the brakes on these selected match ups?

Glamour!

Can I take them and then resell them?

I got both my neighbors to boycott SB! They aren't Bills fans, the AFCCG appalled them.

Flower = Wacky weed works too! 😉

Did you take out a second mortgage!😳 Too rich for my blood! And... Don't think I missed that misspelling of: Flour 😉

😆... This adds new meaning to: "Helicopter Parent" 😏

Thnx... Yeah... That route change is above everyone's pay grade... Still doing it the bad way... Helo asked for visual, granted it, confirmed plane, and STILL SLAMMED INTO plane. They effed up. We can argue policy, SOPs, routes all day, still ain't gonna bring them back.

You just said the mission did... They needed to be practicing full blast @ 150mph... Gotta know how to transport those oligarchs & dignitaries w/obfuscating night vision switched on! The plane is LANDING & you want another aircraft to go in front or off course. Maybe I don't get geometry here, but you must be a real hoot at train crossings!😆...😉 I don't see what you're trying to do here. The helo effed up the visual. There's another theory here, they were young hot shots AND they made a boo-boo, really bad boo-boo!😔😟

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If the high ranking officials were that important... The whole area would be shut down to others. 😆 God Bless America... 😆Kid is toast!

Oh...Tay... And that's how accidents happen... Great way to learn... Whenever this report comes out, will be interesting.

No... But they have a full 2 minutes to slow down. Then there's the night vision. Was it a hindrance? Why were they going balls to the wall after they were granted visual separation. Alter course? Alter airspeed (20%) and maybe there's a near miss?

It's still the helicopters responsibility to avoid. Where else is it going to go that late in the game? Zip in front... I most certainly hope not! Seems like common sense... ATC didn't control anything. Just stated the obvious. And again, if night vision was impairing color discernment, why were they on? Maybe... There's the issue? Their in visual mode and given the bright environment, did they really need night vision? Was it actually an impairment? I am sure they will look at that?

I thought this is fact: "...The pilot replied in the affirmative and asked for “visual separation,” meaning that they would take responsibility for staying clear of the other aircraft. The tower granted it: “Visual separation approved.” ..." I do find even in my mundane job, young operators tend to lean on tech more than when I started. Just saying... Young pilot with under 500 hours. It's a tragedy, very big tragedy. When she went visual... IN THOSE CONDITIONS, maybe the night vision should have been switched off???

But, sadly it did happen. Things will change, unfortunately at a very high cost! 😔 If they are requesting visual separation a full 2 minutes before... Granted it, isn't it out of the ATC's hands? What the heck are they wearing hindrances (night vision) for, if it's going to mess up the ability to spot lights on surrounding aircraft? I guess that will be a no-no in future when going visual in a commercial area? City lights, etc...

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/d-c-plane-crash-black-hawk-pilot-error.html Clearly falls on helo: "...The controller handling the aircraft in the Reagan tower likewise didn’t do anything wrong. He was keeping track of the Black Hawk as it flew south along the Potomac through a narrow corridor called Route 4 that passed well under the approach path for Runway 33. Seeing that the plane and the helicopter were flying toward each other in opposite directions, the controller called the helicopter on the radio about two minutes before the accident occurred and asked if it had the plane in sight. The pilot replied in the affirmative and asked for “visual separation,” meaning that they would take responsibility for staying clear of the other aircraft. The tower granted it: “Visual separation approved.” ..."

Well there's your problem! Helicopter error!

They can't mistake. That's what navigation lights are for. White light aft, etc...