ExiledInIllinois

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/d-c-plane-crash-black-hawk-pilot-error.html Clearly falls on helo: "...The controller handling the aircraft in the Reagan tower likewise didn’t do anything wrong. He was keeping track of the Black Hawk as it flew south along the Potomac through a narrow corridor called Route 4 that passed well under the approach path for Runway 33. Seeing that the plane and the helicopter were flying toward each other in opposite directions, the controller called the helicopter on the radio about two minutes before the accident occurred and asked if it had the plane in sight. The pilot replied in the affirmative and asked for “visual separation,” meaning that they would take responsibility for staying clear of the other aircraft. The tower granted it: “Visual separation approved.” ..."

Well there's your problem! Helicopter error!

They can't mistake. That's what navigation lights are for. White light aft, etc...

What kind of instructions would help? Common sense says look where you are going. A plane is landing... They are coming from the starboard side... I assume they saw the green starboard navigation lights of plane? If they got confused with another taking off, wouldn't they have seen the red port lights? They were in communication. Transfered visual flight rules over, helo complied, plenty of time to slow down. Yeah, I will wait for it to conclude, but how it can it NOT be their fault. Avoid the plane! One job.

Where else is helo gonna go? Beat around in front? So you would send the more maneuverable aircraft in front of the less maneuverable aircraft? That's insane! That simply doesn't make sense. Let's just consider this the same elevation, one's gotta give way... And that would always be the helicopter in this situation. If this was on the water (same elevation), the plane would be the stand-on vessel & helicopter the give-way vessel. You wouldn't even need a controller to explain this. I simply can't see how the plane or tower is to fault here. The highly maneuverable helo is always the burdened one here... The plane the privileged one here... AND that's exactly what the ATC conveyed & helo assumed, agreed to visual. AVOID the privileged aircraft. Again... The helo sees the plane's starboard lights early enough?? Zipping along in a helicopter, in the dark, through busy flight patterns is gamble EVEN given that aircraft can pass above or below each other. AND the plane was attempting to land, which I assume was also losing altitude. The pilot had under 500 hours. That's not a lot. Like 11 weeks of being on the job in the air. Just saying...

I wish. Sadly, no.

Oh... Finally found... The Bills organization is nothing but class compared to this. This is what happens when they feel robbed, when I all reality they weren't: Nobody on Bills is doing this! Even the fans... Which are mainly neutral...

The only thing I can say is they owe us! We got the receipts and are entitled to a perfect season! 😆🤣

Yeah, I get it... They like matchups. Say Detroit hadn't lost out & instead won out... Would Bills have got the calls? Same with Washington. Maybe play both Championship Games at same time? Never gonna happen IMO. Agree... I don't care. We have always taken high-road gets us nowhere. Are the Texans babies? I mean, honestly we are true victims this time... Sad that victim shaming occurs.

When have the Bills not had negative PR. 😆🤣 Most watched NON-SB's were #1, 1988... #2, 2025. Bills were in both. Even Chris Jones groaned and cringed, pushed him away jokingly...

Did you hear what he said? "I don't care how you get to do it again." Really? KC gets Carte Blanche? 😕😞

KC will win and Travis will propose on the podium to TayTay. Book it! Only explanation for this... Watch commissioner hug Chris Jones after the game: https://www.totalprosports.com/nfl/sketchy-footage-has-social-media-erupting-over-roger-goodells-fishy-behavior-towards-kansas-city-chiefs-player/

Hideous! Only worse, I can think of, if this was smeared in Nutella!😆

Then what was that professional pilot talking about in the article?

The hot sauce thread brought me here:

That's how the cocksauce works💪! 😆🤣

Goodell saying: "You helped us..."

Yeah... AND my old man complained the Dolphins got the breaks in the 1970s because Shula sat on the competition board along with the Refs... NFL is joke since crook Halas swindled Buffalo out of the 1st NFL Championship: Crooked since it's inception: It's not openly rigged like that. Games are messaged for $$$. Watch commissioner hug Chris Jones after the game: https://www.totalprosports.com/nfl/sketchy-footage-has-social-media-erupting-over-roger-goodells-fishy-behavior-towards-kansas-city-chiefs-player/ Goodell is caught saying: "I don't care about how you do it." Chris Jones just goes: "Whooa!" and chuckles. The Chiefs, just given Carte Blanche to live within the gray areas of the rules!!!

Bills were NOT outcoached. They played a great game. Most points at Arrowhead all year by a Chiefs opponent. It's one turnover that doomed the Bills. The Bills lost the turnover battle, but didn't cause the turnover, the Refs did. Turnover on downs that was made 1st down on 3rd & 3.

Times article, seems pretty on: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/31/business/dc-plane-helicopter-crash-cause.html

Interesting... This past AFCCG was the 2nd highest watched non-SB game. The highest? 1988 AFCCG. Guess who was in that one?😏 Any... Should boycott it, to show then the smallest market in League is their bread and butter!

Good just "everyday" sh*t... Doesn't get old... Thick too, doesn't run all over place...

Stop complaining! Bunch of whiners! Bills lost!