Peter

We now have online betting in Florida. I bet a small amount of money on the Bengals last night. Although it was a small amount of money, I never would have bet on the Bengals if I had known about this.

I got it. Let's ignore anything that reflects favorably on the offense and the former OC. Got it. Now that we have fed Dorsey to the lions, we got rid of what was holding us back and we are Super Bowl bound. The metrics are what the metrics are. NONE OF THEM justify firing the OC.

P.S. As Gabe mentioned, execution is on the players not the OC. Same with the TOs by Josh who also by the way was leading the league in TDs (19). P.P.S. We are averaging 26.2 points per game (not less than 20 ppg), which is 8th in the league . . . and again does not scream out for firing the OC. P.P.P.S. The defense is ranked 17th in scoring defense by comparison.

Josh would be having a lot more fun if his star wide receiver were not screaming at him on the sidelines or the brother of that same wide receiver posting sh*t on social media.

To state it another way, he is asking Josh to not be as aggressive and run the ball as much as he has in the past. Whether that is a good idea or bad idea, it is odd that McClappy would say what he said because he more than anyone is responsible.

A friend of mine is dating a woman and does not get along with her daughter that well. I have told him to never put his girlfriend in a position where he is asking her to choose between him and the daughter because he will lose every time. The same is true with Josh and McClappy. In a choice between Josh and McClappy, Josh wins 100 times out of 100.

They are bizarre . . . especially given that it was McCoach himself (as others have pointed out) who has attempted to neuter Josh.

I answered the question. The metrics show that it is. The larger point is, whether you believe it is or not, the metrics certainly don't cry out for firing the OC. If the defense did not screw the pooch on three game winning drives, does McD feed Dorsey to the lions to deflect?

The metrics demonstrate yes.

Last year = see below: https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/season/2022/seasontype/2 This year = see below: https://x.com/minakimes/status/1724466437190975685?s=20

For the past year +, there have been incessant threads and posts criticizing Dorsey and demanding that he be fired. I could not keep track of how many people started such threads and "official" fire Dorsey threads. Last year people moaned that the offense was not as good as the year before even though that was demonstrably false. As you said, you don't care, but the offense was among the best statistically but people still wanted Dorsey's head and blamed him even though (as players have admitted) the problems were with execution. In the end, we are are 5-5 when we should have been 7-3 because the defense gave up multiple game winning drives after the offense put us in a position to win (not to mention the ridiculous 12 men on the field). McD fed Dorsey to the lions who have been calling for his head. Dorsey did not deserve it or the incessant criticism (in my view).

I agree with your point that Josh deserves his share of the blame. I love the guy and he is perfect for Buffalo and the Bills, but he does deserve his share of the blame certainly.

The first part ignores my point. I am not making an excuse for him. I am making an observation as to why, as Kurt Warner demonstrated, he is not getting his feet set and his rushing throws etc. The second part (preparation) could be part of the problem. To push their narrative, the Dorsey haters ignored those numbers and have had it out for him since last year and ignored these full season numbers from last year: https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/season/2022/seasontype/2

Who makes the decision in the moment whether to hand the ball off? Rhetorical question.

https://x.com/minakimes/status/1724466437190975685?s=20

Do you watch football or have you ever played football?!?! My point is that it has gotten into his head. If you cannot see that, we disagree.

I watched the Warner youtube video defending Dorsey/questioning the firing and making the comments that you accurately set forth above. When I listened to what Warner said about Josh not getting his feet set on time etc., I immediately thought that Josh does not trust the protection and/or feels and that is why he reacts the way he does (rushing or failing to make the correct read; escaping the pocket; etc.).

Leslie is a classy guy. P.S. As for the discussion about whether he was telling the truth about whether he was fired to make it sound better, the guy already was fired as a HC. Nearly all coaches get fired at some point in their careers. I also don't think people (owners and HCs) care whether McD fired him or not.

Gabe Davis speaks truths about Dorsey. Unfortunately, some here, on WGR, and McCoach have a narrative they want to push. "We are behind Dorsey 100%"

How do you know? Did his brother post that he is re-energized?

Kurt Warner - In Defense of Dorsey Kurt Warner - In Defense of Dorsey

He is the one who traded the rights to pick Patrick Mahomes. Beane was the one who made all of the moves to pick Allen. Oh, and by the way, I have it on very good authority that Terry was one of the primary people pushing for selecting Josh.

You are correct. He needs to go.

I have read a lot of posts defending McD, but this is a first. So what you are saying is that if and when McClappy gets fired, the Bills' value will decrease by over $2 Billion. Hmmm.