Peter

I hope that you are correct.

I would have preferred a dome as well, but who was going to pay for the significant extra cost? Also, given inflation and that fact that this stadium is being built in NY, I suspect that the stadium will be over budget in any event. People around the state of NY bitched and moaned about the cost and still do. Even at the cost of this stadium, I suspect that people also will complain about the seat licenses.

How many points did the offense score against the Dolphin defense yesterday that was missing many of their most important players? Answer 14 How many points did we score against the Dolphin defense when Dorsey was the OC earlier in the season? Answer 48 What was our average points scored in the 10 games under Dorsey? Answer 25.6 What was the average points scored in the 6 games after Dorsey? Answer 25.14 Hmmm See above. P.S. The offense scored 14 points yesterday. Did you watch the game? You guys are embarrassing yourselves with your agenda against Dorsey. I thought about posting to both you guys last night that under Dorsey we scored 48 against the Dolphins and only 14 yesterday against a Dolphin defense that was missing several critical players. I decided to be graceful and let you guys and all of us enjoy the win. You guys reveal more about yourselves in persisting with your agenda against the guy that was the OC of the second best offense in the NFL last year and did not deserve to be thrown under the bus by McD. I know how much you guys love to argue and get the last word in. You guys can say whatever you want in response. I am not going to continue to argue with you. Life is too short. In the meantime, I am going to enjoy the win and look forward to next week. God bless.

This is the first time that I have ever rooted for the Titans (that I can recall).

Whenever I read or hear whiners declaring that the Pegulas should sell the Bills or Sabres, I think about that old Chinese proverb: “Be careful what you wish for.” I do not believe that there was anyone - other than the Pegulas - that would keep the team in Buffalo when the Wilson estate auctioned the team. The Pegulas overpaid for the team at the time (relative to the Bills value as a team IN BUFFALO) to make sure that the team stayed in Buffalo. If the Bills or Sabres were sold today, I don’t see anyone out there who could afford either team (and the carrying costs) and would be sentimental about keeping the teams in Buffalo. Financially, it would make more sense to move the teams to a larger market (presumably even with having to pay whatever penalty would have to be paid re the new stadium). Again, I will never understand the people who scream for the Pegulas to sell either team.

I wonder when Diggs' brother will tweet complaining about the Athletic article . . . .

I am glad everyone is safe. That would have been just awful. It already is horrible that this happened to him (or anyone).

We had that feeling as well when we were watching. I was hoping that they would show another angle so that we could see more clearly.

Pesky facts: Second Best Offense 2022 As for wins and losses this year, how many “game losing drives” did our defense give up this year when Dorsey was our OC?!? If our defense could protect the lead, we already would have qualified for the playoffs and could have or be fighting for the number one seed. How many turnovers did the offense give up? (You probably would want to blame that on him as well) You can have the last word on this. I know that is important to you. I am not going to respond because I have better things to do on New Year’s Eve than argue with someone who has a biased agenda. Happy New Year.

Not really, but believe what you believe to push your agenda.

In your mind.

I was under the impression from some people on this board, Cover 1, and WGR that Dorsey was responsible for anything wrong with the offense, the economy, the Ukraine, and the Middle East.

Any idea what time the Bills v. Dolphins game will be?

Bingo.

Merry Christmas and all the best to each of you and your families in 2024!!!

I have to go pick up my kids. I do not have time to look now, but my recollection is that the primary problem we had was turnovers as well as the attempt to change Josh's style of play. We will just agree to disagree on Dorsey. I do appreciate the civil discourse with you on this subject.

My response: COYG!!!

Cover 1 was leading the charge against Dorsey. That does not surprise me. I am not going to so easily dismiss Warner's evaluation just because of Cover 1. Whatever one thinks about Dorsey, he was the OC of the second best offense in the league last year (and outperformed prior years). I don't think he suddenly forgot how to be an OC from last year to this year. As for changing the way Josh plays, the main person who has been vocal (or at least was vocal about it) has the initials Sean McDermott. Having said all of that, I do believe that Joe B has done a very good job. I just don't buy into the anti Dorsey narrative here, on WGR, or Cover 1.

Second best offense and scoring offense last year 2022 Buffalo Bills Offense Additional objective Metrics for 2023 Not exactly metrics that support firing the OC. Millano was a big loss no question. You are correct about that. [I actually was at that game in London. One of the main things that sticks out is who was the idiot who decided not to leave for London earlier in the week . . . hmmm]. Tre has not been Tre in a few years. As for offensive and defensive resources, in the seven years since McD has been with the Bills, five of our seven first round picks have gone to the defense. We have devoted substantial resources to the defense in free agency as well. Floyd for example - who has played very well. On the other hand, I keep on reading about people complaining that the team has not made a number 2 WR a priority. Merry Christmas.

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This reminded me of the report (not sure it is true) that Caleb Williams (or his Dad) wants any team that drafts him to give him an ownership interest. In other words, this is completely self-defeating unless he were to walk that back.

Some Perspective Bengals Playoff Game Interestingly, the PFF grades for the Bengals playoff game had the offense playing better than the defense: Offense grade: 65.1 Defense grade: 60.5 This Season Also interesting, in the five losses this season when Dorsey was OC, the offense graded better than the defense in all but one. In that one game, the offense and defense had identical grades. Of course, everyone presumably knows about all of the game losing drives that the defense has given up this year and that we would be firmly in the playoffs but for our defense not playing (as one might say) "complementary football." Also, in case you were wondering, the offense had better grades than the defense in each of our wins when Dorsey was the OC. It is a shame our defensive coordinator cannot get his defense to play "complementary" football. Go Bills!!! Having said all of that, Go Bills and Go Joe B!!!

FWIW - I have been to his BBQ place down here in Miami. It is excellent and has received very good reviews.

Even McD confirmed the 9/11 speech. Has anyone denied that McD took over the play calling during the infamous 13 seconds game? Has anyone disputed the story regarding Chad Hall? Of course not. Prior to the article, some people here thought that Diggs was unhappy that Chad Hall left and was not promoted. Now we know why he left and nobody has denied what was written in the article about McD and Hall. Another quote was that McD would make Dorsey the fall guy. That is exactly what happened. All I have seen is some players have defended McD generally by saying he has a good character. I am not aware of anyone disputing specifics facts that were set forth in the article. Perhaps I did not see specific factual rebuttals. If I am mistaken about this, please link specific factual rebuttals by any of the ex-Bills players (or current players).