Mark VI

Having a Rookie smurf WR throwing passes up 20, instead of running. Real cute. Prevent D against a 3rd string QB. The players have no clue how to finish, due to the shortcomings of this coaching staff.

It's the Soco and all that head butting.

That's the 3rd Fiesta Bowl appearance for Ohio St. in 4 years. Cha-ching.

This is such an unforgivable loss, with that lead.

Mularkey is making peanuts ,compared to most NFL Coaches. If Ralph can't eat his contract, then it's just him being cheap again.

He also was stripped of the ball by Reed, but the refs blew it dead. But I hear your point. More of Mularkeys famous offensive " Packages " that telegraph most every play.

Total contract is around 62 Mil.

Blame the OL. Drew is infallible, much like Jon Voight on CBS tonight !

We should give him market value. What's market value for a talented CB who gets beat often ?

That series where Losman throws that INT called for a run. If we fail, chip shot FG and we probably win. The DB's playing a mile off...and on..and on..and on..

So it was smart of Losman to be throwing down by the goal line ? Run, fail, kick a chip shot FG and win. The Coaches are IDIOTS !

We need more talent, little doubt. But that was the worst Coaching job I've seen since Hank Bullough wrecked the team and the english language in the mid 80's. You put your players in position to win by calling intelligent plays/defensive formations with the lead, especially a large lead. Another game given away. I hope the press just drills them unmercifully. I could care that MM still has 3 years left on his contract. He's in WAAAAAAAAY over his head.

This further shows that automatic BCS bids for conferences are a joke. 8-4 teams do not belong in a BCS bowl. Florida St. deserved their victory yesterday and played hard but had just lost their last 3 games. 8-4 gets in and Oregon at 10-1, with their only loss to USC, may not. Yeah, that's fair.

Anyone watch the SEC Champ. game yesterday ? That Guard from Georgia, Gilles, stood out. ( #74 ) . He had multiple plays at both RG and LG. Just bowled over people in the running game and showed great pulling ability on sweeps. Has the ability to play tackle. Good pass blocker. I'd wouldn't be upset if we drafted him.

2002 was great. Very average to below average the other years. Stats don't show all the missed blocks, dropped balls, broken patterns, short arming balls etc. Made a ton of $$ but I never liked the guy. He was the walking definition of gutless on gameday. Atlanta and Dallas agreed. Are you his agent ?

The BCS voters may be on steroids.

Brilliant !

What did Barry Sanders weigh ? 245 ?

Never. His complete lack of heart and short arming balls over the middle will never be forgotton. He's been cut by 2 teams for a reason.

Let's trade Willis and our # 1 to Houston so WE can get him. Then select OL , DL the rest of the draft.

It comes down to 2 loss Ohio St. and 1 loss Oregon for the final BCS slot. Buckeyes are #6 in the BCS, due to the harder schedule. ( Oregon #8). Buckeyes go to the Capitol One Bowl in Orlando if they lose out .

For one year. See Alvin Harper.

Anyone need a WR with suspect hands and no heart ?

You and I have had conversations about the relationships between Ralph, his Detroit people and the GM/Coaching hires. To summarize, Ralph has always been a nice guy and has given us a football team to watch for the last 46 seasons. But he IS a businessman first and not the blind loyal Buffalo guy many make him out to be. He did want this franchise in Miami, not Buffalo. He then threatened to move this team to Seattle during a stadium fight in the late 60's. The result was a football only stadium in Orchard Park, instead of an all sports stadium in Lancaster ( Cotrell project ) . That meant Major League Baseball gave a team to Montreal in 1969, instead of Buffalo as first planned. Football players were lucky to make 12-18K a year during the 1960's, causing them to immediately seek 2nd jobs during the off-season. As the 1970's finacial boom hit, with the merger of the NFL-AFL and huge TV deals, Ralph was one of the last owners to open up his snapper purse and spend money. Multiple top players left becuase Ralph refused to give then raises, amounting to a few hundred dollars. I was royally pissed when he let WR Ahmad Rashad walk for his refusal to bump his small salary. He went to Minny and was an all-pro for years. I could list multiple player examples like that. He finally spent some $$ after O.J. held out , prior to the 1976 season. About 16 months later, he was traded away. The result was a bonanza of draft picks and a smart coaching hire in Chuck Knox. Knox really turned this team around with sharp drafting and solid Vet aquisitions. After 2 strong playoff years in 1980-81, the Detroit people came in and started nixing raises. Knox was gone within a year. About 4 years later, Bill Polian was hired and brought in Marv Levy. Wilson never had it so good. A daring, bold, bright GM with a keen eye for talent. Plus a Coach he got along with perfectly. It worked well for several years but once again, the Detroit bean counters showed up ( Jeff Littman and Co. ). Polian can't stand Littman and is gone. Butler kept the ship floating for a while but the salary cap age emerged and Butler clearly didn't adapt well to this. He left and the cap was a mess. Can we forget the Wade Phillips fiasco, with Ralph wanting money refunded ? Enter TD with a half empty stadium, a bad cap situation and a bad team. He squares away the cap by basically eating the 2001 season. He makes a high profile aquisition in Drew Bledsoe and some other good FA's. Hopes rise...season tickets increase...stadium sellouts but the lack of talent in the trenches plus cheap inexperienced coaching hires keep this team in park. But...but.. Business is GOOD ! BackInDaDay has been around long enough to observe the history of this organization and feel the way that he does. He's a blind loyal fan but sees a pattern that many of us agree with. Multiple decisions by Ralph throughout the years have taken the business end of the team into consideration first over winning. Polians' hire may have been the case of a blind squirrel finding a nut but then the bean counters showed up and drove a good man away. Same happened with Knox in 1983. You need to pay a balanced roster well if your serious about winning. Not just a few marque names who will sell tickets in the short run... Then again..that's none of my Business...

You'd wind up as Hefs' cabana boy.