Wayne Arnold

Nothing? Jeez, guys.

Lacks NFL arm strength. Sounds like a poor man's Nate Peterman.

One scenario of thousands. Please add your thoughts. These are just my initial ideas on how I could see the offseason panning out. I usually stay away from Bills related forums between the Super Bowl and the Masters in April (aside from the first few days of free agency) so I wanted to get this created before Sunday. It's obviously way too early to determine draft order and it may not be realistic to acquire this many free agents (even though none will break the bank). I expect Bradford to simply take over Tyrod's cap space. And this scenario is with the (probably too optimistic) hope that the NFL relieves Eric Wood's contract from our cap based on the rare happenstance that occurred. 2018 Pre-6/1 Checklist Retain 2018 RFA's: TE Nick O'Leary, DE Eddie Yarbrough, CB Lafayette Pitts Work with NFL and NFLPA to remove Eric Wood's contract from the 2018 salary cap Trade QB Tyrod Taylor for a 2018 4th round pick Sign FA's: QB Sam Bradford, WR Paul Richardson, TE Ed Dickson, DT Daquan Jones, MLB Korey Toomer, OLB Tahir Whitehead, CB Ross Cockrell Trade DE Shaq Lawson for a 2018 4th-round pick 2018 NFL Draft 1 (21). Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma 1 (22). Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa 2 (53). Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky 2 (56). Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State 3 (95). Fred Warner, LB, USC 4 (112). Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin 4 (117). Austin Corbett, OG, Nevada 4 (125). Quadree Henderson, WR, Pittsburgh 5 (164). BJ Hill, DT, NC State 5 (172). Darrel Williams, RB, LSU 2018 Post-6/1 Plans Trade OT Cordy Glenn for a 2019 mid-round pick ($11.25 cap savings) Release FB Patrick Dimarco ($1.55 cap savings) Release WR Andre Holmes ($1.2 cap savings) Sign FA's: RB Alfred Blue, WR Michael Campanaro, G/C Brian Schwenke, DT Shamar Stephen, CB Leonard Johnson Re-sign RB Travaris Cadet, SS Shamarko Thomas 2018 Training Camp 90-Man Roster Depth Chart Quarterback: Sam Bradford (Vikings) Nathan Peterman (1) / Mike White (R-2) / Brandon Silver (R-U) Running Back 1: Lesean McCoy (9/3) Travaris Cadet (6/1) / Marcus Murphy (3/1) / Ito Smith (R-U) Running Back 2: Alfred Blue (Texans) Darrel Williams (R-5) / Aaron Green (2/1) / Regis Cibasu (R-U) Wide Receiver 1: Kelvin Benjamin (4/1) Zay Jones (1) / Michael Campanaro (Ravens) / Brandon Reilly (1) / Rod Streater (6/1) / Bryce Bobo (R-U) Wide Receiver 2: Paul Richardson (Seahawks) Quadree Henderson (R-4) / Andre Holmes (7/1) / Malachi Dupree (1) / Quan Bray (3/1) Tight End: Charles Clay (7/3) Ed Dickson (Panthers) / Troy Fumagalli (R-4) / Nick O'Leary (3) / Khari Lee (3/1) / Jason Croom (1) / Keith Towbridge (1) Left Tackle: Dion Dawkins (1) Conor McDermott (1) / Josh James (2/1) Left Guard: Richie Incognito (12/2) Austin Corbett (R-4) / Mark Korte (R-U) Center: Ryan Groy (4/3) Brian Schwenke (Titans) / Adam Redmond (2/1) Right Guard: Vladimir Ducasse (8/1) John Miller (3) / UDFA Right Tackle: Jordan Mills (4/2) Orlando Brown (R-1) / Jamar McGloster (R-U) ******************************************************************************************************************************* Right Defensive End: Jerry Hughes (8/5) Ryan Davis (6/1) / Nordly Capi (3/1) / Marcus Martin (R-U) Nose Tackle: DaQuan Jones (Titans) Adolphus Washington (2) / Marquavious Lewis (1) / UDFA Defensive Tackle: Shamar Stephen (Vikings) BJ Hill (R-5) / Rickey Hatley (1) / Connor Sheehy (R-U) Left Defensive End: Lorenzo Alexander (13/2) Sam Hubbard (R-2) / Eddie Yarbrough (2/1) / FREE AGENT Weakside Linebacker: Matt Milano (1) Xavier Woodsonluster (1) / Parris Bennett (R-U) Middle Linebacker: Korey Toomer (Chargers) Tanner Vallejo (1) / Joel Lanning (R-U) Strongside Linebacker - Tahir Whitehead (Lions) Fred Warner (R-3) / Deon Lacey (5/1) Cornerback 1: Tre'Davious White (1) Leonard Johnson (6/1) / Lafayette Pitts (2/1) / FREE AGENT / UDFA Cornerback 2: Ross Cockrell (Giants) Josh Jackson (R-1) / Breon Borders (1) / Malik Reaves (R-U) Free Safety: Jordan Poyer (4/-) Dean Marlowe (3/1) / Kelcie McCray (6/-) / Jordan Martin (R-U) Strong Safety: Micah Hyde (4/-) Shamarko Thomas (5/1) / LJ McCray (4/1) / UDFA

CornerBlitz said that Clay's release would provide "zero dollars of cap relief," which is false and I simply pointed that out. I don't want to release Clay.

After June 1st, releasing Clay would add $4.5 to the cap as stated in the OP.

I'm beginning to lean toward this as well, unfortunately. But I'm still optimistic that they can get a 4th round pick for him before his bonus is due and sign Bradford, who I do consider an upgrade. Quarterback Purgatory sucks, y'all.

I tend to think roasts of professional athletes are a bad idea. Most of them are your stereotypical jocks with too much pride and insecure ego to be made fun of in good faith. They tend to take themselves way too seriously and have no sense of humor. Just seems like it would be really uncomfortable. For example, could you imagine a Tom Brady roast? He would put on his fake awkward smile face throughout the thing then as soon as he got back to his hotel room would tear it apart Citizen Kane style. "They said I was slow! Made fun of me falling into the 6th round and crying about it many years later! They were all laughing at meeee!!!"

I admit I'm a little confused about Taylor's financial situation because of the bonus that is due in March. I had assumed that if they traded/released him before that bonus that that money would be added to the cap. I don't think Beane finds the dead cap all that relevant with regard to his personnel decisions. It's all about the value of the player and how much money would be added to the cap with his release and whether it's worth it or not. He's not going to stay up at night worrying about dead cap that Whaley caused by doling out dumb contracts.

Because there are so many holes on the roster they need every every promising young player they can get via the draft. Having eight picks in the first five rounds (four in the first two) is huge. To throw that away would be unfortunate.

Even if they can't get Cousins they shouldn't move up unless the guy they love falls to 16 or so.

I think Jones usually disagreed with Murph but didn't want to make him mad. Murphy doesn't seem like the most open-minded person in the world.

For a second I thought the fans were smart enough to realize that just because they won 9 games doesn't mean they weren't a 4-5 win roster but then I realized oh yeah they aren't. They could be a much-improved team in 2018 and still win less games. That's the way it goes.

Funny thing about the OLine is that Mills and Ducasse quietly had solid seasons. Ducasse might not be a fit for Daboll's scheme but I don't see him as an automatic cut. PFF isn't the end-all/be-all, but here are their 2017 grades for our starting OLine... LT Dion Dawkins: 74.6 (excellent for a rookie - 33rd rated tackle, above-average) LG Richie Incognito: 80.5 (12th rated guard - good but I just wonder how much left he has in the tank) C Eric Wood: 68.0 (16th rated center - average) RG Vlad Ducasse: 75.5 (24th rated guard, above-average) RT Jordan Mills: 65.8 (43rd rated tackle, average)

This is actually a really good point. The one thing breaking the streak gave Beane and McDermott is tremendous security. Not just with the Pegula's but the fans. Granted, that can dissipate quickly in professional sports but if McBeane can't get the QB they want and they look at this team and don't see a contender, they could wipe the slate clean without having to worry about being on the hot seat. It's actually a rare opportunity. Of all the players I mentioned, only Davis, Ducasse, Dimarco and Holmes were brought in by McBeane. Ducasse and Dimarco were brought in for Dennison's crappy scheme and Holmes was a disappointment. I only see Davis as being relatively safe.

I would think that if they release all/most of these veterans that they would want to use all of their draft picks to fill those spots.

The Buffalo Bills currently have $31,336,937 million in 2018 cap space. Good for 16th in the NFL. Not terrible, but not great. Which of these moves could you see Beane end up doing? What are the chances that he does them all? Releasing QB Tyrod Taylor prior to the March signing bonus deadline would add $15.44 million to the 2018 cap (no-brainer) Releasing OG Richie Incognito would add $6.425 million to the 2018 cap. Releasing DE Jerry Hughes would add $4.6 million to the 2018 cap. Releasing RB Lesean McCoy would add $3.7 million to the 2018 cap. Releasing LB Lorenzo Alexander would add $2.85 million to the 2018 cap. Releasing OT Jordan Mills would add $1.95 million to the 2018 cap. Releasing DE Ryan Davis would add $1.225 million to the 2018 cap. Releasing OG Vlad Ducasse would add $1.02 million to the 2018 cap. Obviously Wood is a complicated situation, but I can't help but think there's a way to eliminate his contract from the cap. If the Bills were somehow able to pull that off, that would add an additional $8.625 million to the 2018 salary cap. If Beane somehow dumped all of these players (including managing to remove Wood's salary from the cap), that would add $45.835 million to the salary cap, more than doubling it for a grand total of $77.17 million - which would be 5th in the NFL (behind only 49ers, Browns, Colts and barely the Jets). In addition, they could also make the following moves after June 1st: Trading OT Cordy Glenn after June 1st would add $11.25 million to the 2018 cap Releasing TE Charles Clay would add $4.5 million to the 2018 cap Releasing FB Patrick Dimarco would add $1.55 million to the 2018 cap Releasing WR Andre Holmes would add $1.2 million to the 2018 cap That would add another $18.5 million to fill roster holes. The questions you have to ask are: Is Tyrod Taylor worth $15.44 million? I say no. Is Richie Incognito worth $6.425 million? That's a tougher one - I would say no because I think they can get better value than that at the guard position, but I could go either way. Is Jerry Hughes worth $4.6 million? I say yes. Is Shady worth $3.7 million? I say yes, but I don't feel too strongly about it. IMO we just saw Shady's last fully healthy season. Is Lorax worth $2.85 million? I'm on the fence with this one as I think his presence at defensive end could replace Shaq Lawson, in which case we could get a mid-round pick for Shaq. Is Jordan Mills worth $1.95 million? I might be in the minority on this one but I say yes. He exceeded expectations in 2018. Is Ryan Davis worth $1.225 million? I say definitely yes - adds very good DLine depth for relatively cheap. Is Vlad Ducasse worth $1.02 million? Probably depends on the new run scheme. Thoughts?

Maybe he was a jerk. His son certainly is.

Might be the dumbest comment in this forum's history.

No trade up. This team needs all of their picks. So many holes.

Beane, McDermott, Daboll and Kim Pegula would be a great recruiting team, imo.

Yeah let the Jets have a franchise quarterback for the next 10 years while we wallow away from QB Purgatory misery. Are you out of your mind?

Because the Redskins are terrible.