Wayne Arnold

Is this supposed to be an example of that? Because all I see is his OLine getting annihilated and him having to run for his life.

Let me guess. "Low completion percentage" aka "poor accuracy" "Didn't dominate at a mid-major like Roethlisberger did in 2003" "Struggled against power conference programs"

"HE'S JURST MAKING EXCURSES!" and what not.

I call him Tred.

We'll be looking for a new OC in 2019, if that's the case.

He was also the defensive coordinator for Penn State for a number of years.

I know PFF graded him poorly last year but when I think of Dimarco I think of one play in particular...

I think we should panic that we haven't signed a fourth quarterback off the street just eleven weeks before training camp.

Or they weren't impressed with Dimarco's play last season and they want to see if a cheaper option can take his spot on the roster.

This kid is so under-the-radar that he doesn't even have an NFL Draft Scout profile.

How long until we find out if any of the try-out players made the team?

I love dad jokes.

I saw some good and some bad from McDermott last season. I'm not willing to crown him yet. And I have no idea how to evaluate Beane at this point other than he speaks well. I go by what I see. In Josh Allen I see an imperfect-yet-supremely-talented quarterback who had to carry a poor offense with a horribly outdated, easy-to-defend and predictable system on his shoulders and performed extremely well despite those hurdles, achieving things at the Wyoming football program not witnessed in decades. I also saw a four-month-long group-think Josh Allen bashfest from social-media private NFL evaluators that the general public swallowed hook, line and sinker. These evaluators heard about a big kid with poor numbers at a mid-major who was possibly going to be the #1 pick in the draft and thought, "I'll show you why this kid is overrated" and pointed out every negative as their own confirmation bias, patting eachother's backs throughout. As a result, Allen has unfairly become the symbol for old-school scouting methods and everything the growing moneyball/analytical scouting community are against. That not only affected Allen's public perception as a football player but also his draft stock. None of that has anything to do with thinking McBeane can do no wrong.

That must be it. Can't just be about Allen. Must be a developing pro-McBeane cult.

How good or bad Orlovsky was as a player has nothing to do with it.

Baker Mayfield trying to get away from backup quarterback status like...

Stop dodging and own it. You said "many, if not most analysts 'expert draft analysts' had him as a 3rd round type project." Where are all of these expert draft analysts you speak of? We get it about Ledyard - his list is a "most likely to succeed in the NFL" ranking and I'm sure his past record is unmatched and impeccable. Probably makes millions off of his evaluations. But "many, if not most analysts" would indicate...what, 50 people? Please list those 50 people who considered Allen a 3rd round or later pick.

Orlovsky harps on this one play as the basis for crapping on Allen. Patented group-think mentality. Proof that former NFL players are not at all immune to it.

"Your being bias"

Yes. They all stunk. #analytics .

Another intriguing try-out player is the Buffalo State defensive tackle. The quality of this video is horrible but you can see him completely dominating fools. I also think Eric Boggs out of Appalachian State could find a spot on the 90 man preseason roster. Bills need another body at linebacker before training camp begins.

Tight End Charlie Callinan out of Boston College is a very intriguing try-out player. Shows great hands on tape and was voted team captain.

There's a difference between a project and a third round talent. You give four examples of national guys who are big fans of Allen, and two guys who really like Allen but recognize him as not a finished product. Not exactly an endorsement for the statement "Many, if not most, 'expert draft analysts' had him as a 3rd round type project." You can cherry pick bad plays by every quarterback in history.

I think Orlovsky watched one game of Allen, which was possibly his worst game: vs. Oregon. He uses an example of one single play of Allen missing a RB checkdown on a blitz as his narrative that Allen doesn't have it upstairs. Pretty silly.