Wayne Arnold

Which tends to happen when you get rid of an average quarterback when you have nothing else on the roster. Good thing we'll never repeat that same mistake again. Oh, wait...

There are no good or bad QB scouts. Drafting a QB is 100% crapshoot.

Not true for AVP. True for Reich, though.

I can buy that but I just don't think there were good enough candidates out there this year that meet your criteria. Haley proved in KC that he's not cut out to be a head coach. McDaniels is not an option for Buffalo. I think if AVP is hired he is bright and experienced enough to be able to mold a talented young QB. In addition, if they can land an experienced QB coach like a Greg Knapp or Greg Olson then I would be very encouraged.

I think that's all it would be. Unless AVP just simply doesn't want to leave Green Bay. If AVP is a legit target and he's interested in the job then we'll see an interview set up sometime next week.

Yes, thanks brother. But I'm skeptical of this line of thinking. I lean toward the side of "Good quarterbacks make coaches look good" as opposed to "Good coaches make quarterbacks look good." If the team was going with a "QB-centric" staff then who would have been your choice?

An improved and balanced offensive attack that went from a lowly average of 346.6 yards per game to a whopping 346.8 yards per game.

lol oh, so the new offensive coordinator gets credit for how the defense and special teams perform in this case?

I'm all in on AVP.

What does that even mean? What would be a coaching staff that is "QB-centric"?

Yes. Yards per game in 2015 under Lombardi (first 7 games): 346.6 Yards per game in 2015 under Cooter (last 9 games): 346.8

Congrats to Stafford. Would he come with Cooter? 2015 DVOA Offense: #13 2016 DVOA Offense: #15 If you prefer total offense... 2015 Total Offense: #20 (#18 yards per play) 2016 Total Offense: #21 (#17 yards per play) I don't see much difference there. One could easily argue that the offense actually regressed under Cooter.

The Lions offense didn't even improve all that much if at all under Cooter than it did under Joe Lombardi. Extremely overrated. Here is a look at Greg Olson speaking... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1zrKrnjq3U He has experience running an offense with a mobile QB. Maybe Olson is all aboard the Tyrod Train.

I'm sold. But he'll probably be a first round pick when it's all said and done. I'd be ecstatic with either Mahomes or Kelly battling with Cardale Jones for the backup spot over these next two seasons while Taylor starts. Then in 2019 see what we've got. Agreed 100%

Ben McAdoo says hello.

I think AVP is ready. He was put in a tough situation in 2009. Plus that was 8 years ago. He'll be 47 in May. Solid NFL career as a backup, spent a few years here in Buffalo as a coach, probably worked his way up the ladder too fast. Spent two seasons as Bucs QB coach (while Greg Olson was OC, btw). And is about to complete his fifth season with the Packers where I'm sure he learned a lot from McCarthy, Ben McAdoo, Tom Clements, Edgar Bennett and even Rodgers. Plus the guy has obviously groomed himself physically for years to look like a Buffalonian.

Joe Lombardi could be another option. Current Saints QB coach. He got a bad rap in Detroit but when looking at it in hindsight he wasn't to blame for their offensive issues. Took an offense that was ranked #19 before he arrived to #13 within two years. This year Lions offense finished 15th. We could do worse.

Matt LaFleur should get an interview.

I don't think he necessarily owes them an apology. But I do think it's further evidence that Carruci is completely full of crap.

How can you guys stand doing this crap for four straight months?

Olson's OC career using DVOA... 2006 - Improved Rams offense from 19 to 14 2007 - Rams offense falls from 14 to 31, Olson is fired However, the next year Rams offense fell to 32 under his replacement Al Saunders. So Rams had bigger issues than Olson. Marc Bulger's nose dive, for instance. 2009 - Bucs offense falls from 20 to 26 under Olson in his first season as OC in TB. 2010 - Offense leaps from 26 to 8. Olson's work along with Josh Freeman's development results in Olson receiving national accolades for the first time as an NFL coach. 9th ranked passing, 11th ranked rushing (well-balanced). 2011 - Falls back to 26. Freeman free-falls, as does the offense. 24th passing, 15th rushing. Coaching staff fired. 2013 - Raiders offense falls from 23 to 28 under Olson. Of course, they replaced Carson Palmer with Terrelle Pryor, a rookie Matt McGloin, and Matt Flynn, so it's understandable. 31st in passing, 15th in rushing. 2014 - Under rookie Derek Carr the Raiders offense finishes 30th. After Olson left, Carr and the Raiders offense improved to 18 in 2015 under Bill Musgrave. 2015 - Jags offense improved under Olson, moving from 31 to 21. 2016 - Olson was the scapegoat for the offense's failure to improve, falling to 27 Personally, I think Olson has been handcuffed by poor quarterback play more than anything. Then again, good coordinators are able to get more out of rushing attacks when the QB play is poor. If Olson is hired, expect to see a fall from our back-to-back Top 10 offense.

User Actions Following Rob Quinn‏@RQUINN619 Think I might be the only person on Bills twitter who likes Olson. User Actions Following Rob Quinn‏@RQUINN619 Rob Quinn Retweeted RawTips Look @ jags 15 pass game, brees @ Purdue, solid w Canes. Childress not exactly a superstar either. Not saying Olson fantastic, just unknown Rob Quinn added, RawTips @rawtips @RQUINN619 why do you?

Should have clarified with "...unless they have another one on the roster." Last I checked Saints don't have a Rodgers, Rivers or Luck grooming behind Brees.

A 3rd may be too much but maybe a 4th in 2018. Or we could throw in Patrick Lewis to really entice them.

But we have to do something to offset the butt-chugging and other 'Sodom-and-Gomorrah' type things the heathens are doing in our parking lots before games.