Wayne Arnold

T-Bomb is right. Kyle lets an opposing player possibly paralyze one of his brothers on his home field with not even a comment. It was a pathetic display. Kyle Williams has been my favorite player on this team for years. I even bought his jersey years ago and I think buying jerseys is stupid. But what he did (or didn't do) yesterday is inexcusable and indicative of an attitude of indifference which has permeated this organizations for nearly two decades.

No. The offense would have continued to suck (worse than we saw under Roman/Lynn in 2015 and 2016) and the defense would have depreciated due to aging personnel (see Williams, Mario).

It doesn't matter. They both need to go.

I'm referring to your idiotic statements about me as a poster.

Absolutely. It would be the first so you may be waiting a while.

Congrats - you're both clueless.

^^Never played a team sport^^

Marrone didn't turn anyone into a legit team. David Cadwell is a very talented General Manager who had been building that team for years before Marrone became HC. Their defense is absolutely loaded.

Kyle come in later and just walked right past Gronk. Dude has been here since 2006 and is apparently okay with an opponent potentially paralyzing his teammate on his home field.

The game was already lost. At the very least someone like Kyle should have at least gotten in Gronk's face and let him know it was unacceptable. That isn't losing one's composure. It's sticking up for your brother.

Or anywhere.

How often did something like that happen during AWill's career? Where his teammate got blasted long after a play right in front of him?

After watching the replay, three key defensive players saw it happen and did nothing 1. Preston Brown 2. Kyle Williams 3. Lorenzo Alexander Three players who each have a leadership role on this team. Brown was right there and his first instinct was to whine to the ref. Kyle Williams was 20 yards away but saw it occur. He ran towards Gronk as soon as it happened, but slowed down as he approached, then stopped and did nothing as Gronk walked down the sideline laughing. He did point toward Gronk while whining to the ref, so there's that. Alexander has the biggest excuse among the three as he may have turned his head just as Gronk nailed White. But nevertheless he saw Gronk laying on top of White and did nothing but clap his hands after the refs threw the flag. Our gutless "leaders".

To be fair to Holmes, he was probably shocked to see such an accurate pass thrown to him during his route.

Eh, that's the type of stuff you keep behind closed doors.

I'm too lazy to do the research right now but I'm pretty sure both QBR and DVOA take things like that into account.

Aaron Williams is just an "internet tough guy".

I posted the wrong Aaron Williams tweet...

I'm pretty sure your assumption is wrong.

Belichick has my respect for his comments after the game.

He's on his third season as a starter in the NFL. Year 1 (2015): 7th in DYAR, 6th best QBR Year 2 (2016): 3rd in DYAR, 6th best QBR, 3rd in passing yards per game Year 3 (2017): 12th in DYAR, 8th best QBR, 5th in passing yards per game

They had an opportunity to do something today and didn't. I'll believe it when I see it.

I don't get it.

Because he's really, really good.