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The reality is he still put up good numbers in Dallas in his final year. After hearing what Beasley had to say about Dallas, its more of a question of Dallas phasing him out of their offense vs him not being capable. He averaged a little more than 4 catches a game and over 11 yards per catch in his final year with Dallas. Can he come back from achilles ? Why not? Takeo Spikes did. To compare him to a Duke freakin Williams, and say he would be the lesser of the two is insane. One came off a practice squad and was just deactived, the other is a proven pro bowl receiver. If Buffalo believe the problem for Allen is Wr talent, they would be insane to not give him a call and work him out.

My sentiment's exactly. I honestly don't think he's going to be franchise material. I see a journeyman in his future unless it really starts clicking for him the second half of the season.

Yea, a multiple year pro bowler isnt better than Duke Williams??? Are you even serious? I cant picture Duke making half these plays.

We have to be ######ed to not get that guy in for a work out. Plus he already has chemistry with Beasley. " Dez Bryant landing spots: 10 NFL contenders likely to show interest in former Cowboys' All-Pro By Patrik Walker 2m ago • 15 min read The NFL hasn't witnessed Dez Bryant catch a pass since Dec. 31, 2017, when he played for the Dallas Cowboys in a season marred with controversy and capped with having been eliminated from the playoffs before January rolled around. It was also one followed by a frustrated Bryant telling the media he'd have conversations with offensive coordinator Scott Linehan and head coach Jason Garrett about scheme issues that dampened his production, but those conversations were replaced with rumors of the club having decided to move on from him. Linehan sold the team on a wide receiver by committee approach, and Bryant was released in April 2018, ushered out the door by the very team that selected him in first round of the 2010 NFL Draft. He'd then sign with the New Orleans Saints in November following his release, but tore his Achilles two days later. Officially ready to mount his comeback, he announced heading into Week 10 of the league calendar, the 31-year-old is healthy -- mentally and physically -- and feels he can contribute to a contender. As far as reported demands he be signed as a starter? Hogwash, according to Bryant. Being a rotational player is of no consequence to him, to his own admission, and there are several teams looking to make a run at February that are likely ready to take his call, if not take the proactive approach of reaching out to him first. After all, a player capable of racking up 73 NFL touchdowns doesn't grow on trees. 1. Houston Texans Bryant is a Lufkin, TX native who makes it known at every turn just how much he loves his home state, but his adoration isn't exclusive to North Texas. His hometown is actually an hour closer to Houston than it is to Dallas, and that's not the only reason this might be a marriage made in heaven. The Texans sit atop the AFC South but just barely, and giving Deshaun Watson another big, strong target to throw the ball to can only help their chances of battling other contenders in the AFC. Watson has worked his magic to an MVP-caliber level in 2018, but the team's wide receiver corps has battled injury. Kenny Stills returned from a hamstring injury recently only to then see Will Fuller succumb to the same ailment, and the success of the Texans is predicated upon Watson's ability to extend plays and fire shots to talented receivers. Bryant alongside Stills and DeAndre Hopkins could be a potent combination, and especially when Fuller is healthy enough to return. The Texans could certainly use Bryant, and he'd only be a short skip from where he grew up as well. 2. New Orleans Saints They wanted him in 2018, and grabbed him, but fate conspired against their union. Now that he's healthy, the Saints reaching back out to Bryant feels like a no-brainer, aided by the instant chemistry he found with head coach Sean Payton and players in the locker room. The team went so far as to note that although Bryant had gotten injured two days after signing, they were still going to award him a Super Bowl ring, if they were successful in their quest. One controversial no-call later, it was instead the Los Angeles Rams moving on to the Super Bowl, but the Saints are right back to their winning ways in 2019, and attempting a mulligan with Bryant makes sense. After noting the usual dominance of Michael Thomas, you'll find a massive void between his production and that of second-place Ted Ginn -- a 579 yard, three touchdown difference, to be exact -- leaving a spot for Bryant to get in where he fits in. With Brees returned, a rotation that includes Thomas, Ginn, Bryant, Alvin Kamaraand a healthy Jared Cook would go a long way to helping them complete a mission the NFL officials helped derail a year ago. New Orleans is also not far from South Texas, and by now you're understanding how important that would be in Bryant's decision. 3. New England Patriots Admit it, you knew this was coming. Yes, the Patriots have won eight of their nine games played in 2019, but it's largely due to the dominance of a defense that owns the NFL when it comes to taking the ball away. For once, Tom Brady is actually being carried by his defensive counterparts, and not the other way around. A key reason for the inconsistency on the offensive side of the ball is the merry-go-round at wide receiver, having signed Demaryius Thomas this offseason only to release and then re-sign him, and then trade him away to the New York Jets after signing Antonio Brown -- who was released two weeks after joining the club. Josh Gordon returned, yes, but his production wasn't up to snuff and the Patriots cut ties with him recently as well. They'd land Mohamed Sanu before the trade deadline, but Brady wouldn't mind adding another proven weapon to join Julian Edelman. Enter Bryant, who reeled in over 800 yards receiving and six touchdowns in his most recent season. Currently, the Patriots are 15th in the NFL in total offense, and if they could begin matching the prowess of their league-best defense, they'd likely be unstoppable. It's the same Patriots organization that found success with a discarded Randy Moss, and tried again with Antonio Brown. Signing a focused and healthy Bryant would not only help propel them further away from the competition, i.e., the Baltimore Ravens, but also help provide a needed ice pack to heal the black eye left by Brown. 4. Buffalo Bills If there's anyone who wants to keep Bryant out of the hands of Brady and head coach Bill Belichick, it's the Bills. Currently in the midst of the most impressive season they've seen in a long time, Buffalo is 6-2 and not far behind their bitter rival from Foxboro. One of their biggest issues, however, is lack of a dynamic wide receiver corps. This is why they should drool at the mere thought of adding Bryant to the roster, a veteran presence who could help in the development of Josh Allen. John Brown has established himself as an impact receiver, but not to the point you'd wave off signing Bryant. Additionally, there's something to be said for recent free agent signing of Cole Beasley, who just happens to be one of Bryant's best friends after having spent much of their career together with the Cowboys -- also sharing a level of disdain for Dallas. It's possible Beasley is texting Bryant as we speak to put a bug in his ear about Buffalo, who has an unexpected but very real chance to make waves in the playoffs. To get there, though, they'll need another weapon or two, so it's safe to assume they'd throw Bryant a coat and a call, assuming he doesn't ring their line first." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dez-bryant-landing-spots-10-nfl-contenders-likely-to-show-interest-in-former-cowboys-all-pro/amp/

did it develop jp? Did it develop trent? Jps stats were similar to Allens this year in his second year and he got benched then ran out of town.

The only thing nonsensical is you trying to explain to me that the Pats change their identity based on who they play. The pats identity is Tom Brady and the passing game. To say otherwise is nonsense. That is their identity until he retires or goes to another team.

I think it is. What is the strength of this offense? Are we playing to it? What kind of offense does this regime want, passing? Running? Balanced? If your identity is passing, you design plays to attack mismatches in the secondary. You scheme guys open and attack. Think patriots, saints, any passing offense really. They do it week in and week out regardless of the opponent. Why? It's their identity. If your identity is running, you design plays and blocking schemes to create running lanes for your backs. Think Ravens. They didn't change their identity against the Patriots top ranked defense, did they? No, they smashed them in the face with smash mouth running football and are on pace to break an NFL rushing record. You don't change your identity to face opponents, you attack the weakness of that team and create plays to suit the strength of your offense. There is no identity on offense at this point, but it sure as hell looked there was one the first couple of weeks.

Sure. What is the identity of this offense? Does anyone really know? Are we a running team? Are we a passing team? McDermott made an interesting comment this week. He was questioned about game planning and what the identity of the team is. His response was, its a week to week thing depending on the team we face. So that tells me we really don't have an identity on offense. We are letting the defense of the opponent dictate how we want to operate, not the other way around. As far as letting Josh sling it, look at the game logs. The first 5 weeks of the season he was playing "hero ball." He was averaging 33 pass attempts per game over that stretch. In that window came 7 ints. Move on to the last 3 weeks. He's averaging 26 attempts per game and no ints. (and if it weren't for a comeback attempt against philly, this number would be drastically lower.) In the first couple of weeks he was letting it rip. It seemed like they were going to really let rip it this year and sink or swim. They surrounded him with Wrs, linemen, TEs and two new running backs. All signs pointed to a legit passing attack. Then, because of those turnovers the offense began to really crawl in a shell. It's like they put him on a leash to protect him. IMO its because we were winning and they know you cant sustain wins with that amount of turnovers. So what initially looked like a legit attempt at a passing offense this year out of the gate, has morphed into a protectionism offense that really has no identity. I like winning, but have said it here before, I'd rather see a loss with growth (from Allen) then sqeaking by with a win with little to no growth. (against bad teams) His college stats are not really impressive and he's a huge project. They need to stop holding his hand, prepare him, coach him and let him play. If I have to watch this kind football for the next 4 years, Ill vomit repeatedly. Let him sink or swim.

He's improved in short yardage passes but regressed in deep passes. He's improved over a few games in interceptions, but has fumbled it in multiple games. He's being hidden by this coaching staff over the last few weeks and it obvious to anyone who's paying attention. They let Allen rip it early on in year and it was disasterous. The ints, the fumbles, the wreckless runs, the injury, etc. So they pulled in the reins. That's the reason his passing has dropped. He was putting the team in too many holes with bad throws. So, he's improved in some areas, and regressed in others. Its a push imo.

He's improved in some areas and regressed in some areas. Its a push IMO.

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9 pages to say it? Beating around the bush? I've said it multiple times in various different threads. True evaluators??? LMFAO. A couple of Buffalo homers talking about the greatness of Allen? Enjoy living sugar plum land.

Jackson done it against high level opponents. They aren't statistically close. Jackson has 600 yards of total offense more than Allen, has less Ints, less fumbles, less turnovers total and averages more than 10 points more per game. Jacksons name is beginning to be mentioned as MVP. allen is no where near that status. Are you living under a rock?

I didn't go to public school, but agree, it has failed this country. Your post isn't over my head. Statistically Allen IS one of the worst starting Qbs in the league. Did he make a jump this season? In completion percentage, yes. But they are hiding him on offense because he's making too many bad plays. The Ravens aren't hiding Jackson, he's throwing for it on 4th down against the Pats defense. They are utilizing his abilities to the fullest and he's excelling. They tried to let Allen sling the rock early on. What did it lead to? Disasters. Turnovers galore. So now they have gone conservative because they can't trust him to do it. Lastly, I support the brand, not individual players. They come and they go, Buffalo remains. I don't hate Allen or wish him to do bad. I simply have lost faith in him.

Critical fans enjoy being 6-2, but also face the reality of how we got to 6-2 and how we look compared to other 6-2 or greater win teams. We still want wins, we still want playoffs, and we still want Super Bowls. We are simply pointing out glaring issues, or issues of concern with this team. The point, as McDermott so oftenly points out, is growth. Where do we need it? What steps do we need to take to be more competitive with the upper echelon of the NFL? What players that have been brought in aren't living up to expectations? Can we even beat upper echelon teams or are these wins simply the product of facing disastrous organizations all season? There are homers and there are critics. This board seems to be overrun with a majority of homers, which is ?. But try a to at least listen to some objectivity. Im still over here trying to figure out how people were giving Allen A to A+ ratings for his weekly grade. Like really? 160+ yards passing and a TD is an A to A+ in the NFL? What is 300+ with no fumbles, 0 Ints, and 4tds? A, Z+?

Cool...now look at where those numbers came from. Buffalo has beaten opponents with a combined record of 9 wins, 42 losses. (9-42) They needed comeback victories in the majority of the wins against those weak opponents. Baltimore has beaten opponents with a combined record of 23 wins, 27 losses. (23-27) They did not need comeback wins in any of those games and averaged 33 points a game against far superior opponents. They smashed the Patriots on Sunday night, and smashed the Seahawk's the week before. Both teams are arguably the best team in each conference. So, both teams, having Qb's with the similar experience faced much different teams in terms of quality. One has orchestrated a scoring averaging of 33 points per win, the other against subpar challengers averaging 22.5. (Jackson) One has more yards passing, more yards per pass, more td's, less int's, and higher Qbr facing more challenging opponents. (Jackson) One has over 600+ yards rushing to the other's 200+ yards. (Jackson) One of them has more rushing Td's, more +20 runs, and less fumbles. (Jackson) Has Josh looked better than last year? In some ways, yes, in other ways...no. Has he looked anywhere near as dominant as Jackson half way through the season? Absolutely not, and if you believe that, you need to watch more football.

Hahaha! I prefer LSU

Tell me you didn't watch the Ravens game last night and say to yourself, i wish it was the bills throttling these mofos. The ravens left no questions about that beat down, nor is there any questions about the validity of their record. It was a dominant performance. Im tired of wishing that was us.

I watch every game. I have Sunday Ticket. I haven't missed a Bills game in 8 years. What im talking about is in my area people arent actively seeking ways to watch the bills, nor do there care too. They get there information from those sources. I watch every game. Im active in fantasy football and sports betting. This isnt about me.

? The ravens are on a 3 game win streak and the last two opponents they've face and beaten were the Undefeated NE pats and Seahawks. Those two teams were dominated by the Ravens. Those two teams have more combined wins then every team we've beaten this year. We are going to lose to them, and lose to them pretty badly IMO.

My point is I don't live in a bubble. I can't go outside and chit chat with my neighbors about buffalo's win, because the majority support PA teams. Buffalo's games are not broadcast locally here unless its a prime time game. The majority of the information that people get around here come from NFL network ESPN. The narrative is we only have this record because of the subpar teams we've faced. So yes, I do care what the media says about my team.

Global media company.....

So you don't enjoy flipping on the NFL network and hearing good things about the team you're a fan of? Oh, ok...must just be me. I live in PA. Im surrounded by Eagles, Steelers, Cowboy and Jets fans. I grow tired of making excuses for a team that's 6-2. I get more trash talk being 6-2 then I did when we were 2-6. I want a dominant team. I want dominant performances. I want a dominant Qb performance, and I want it against a quality team.

This is what the national media thinks of us. Until we put together some dominant games we will continue to be marginalized.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/curtisrush/2019/11/03/buffalo-bills-might-be-most-flawed-6-2-team-youve-ever-seen/amp/ select quotes: The Buffalo Bills might be the most flawed 6-2 team you’ve ever seen on an NFL field. The Bills are off to their best start since 1993, but there is no euphoria among the players or coaching staff. And people are still asking: Are the Bills as good as their record indicates? After allowing 218 rushing yards in last week’s 31-13 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, the Bills gave up 127 yards on the ground to the Redskins, with most of the big gains coming from veteran Adrian Peterson, who rolled up 101 yards on just 10 carries in the first half for an average of better than 10 yards a carry. The Bills tightened things up in the second half. It’s not as if the offense has figured things out because Allen has now gone two straight games throwing for fewer than 200 yards. Against the Eagles, Allen threw for 169 yards and against the Redskins he was held to 160 yards in the air. But Cole Beasley seems to be less of a factor all the time, although his role is being masked because he caught a TD pass for the third straight game, which is the first time that has happened in Buffalo since Charles Clay in 2016. Beasley continues to run great routes and he’s a great possession receiver. But against the Redskins, Beasley was targeted only twice and caught both passes for only 13 yards – his lowest totals of the season. He has not caught more than four passes in a game since the loss to New England in Week 4, when he hauled in seven passes for 75 yards. This is not why you signed the former Dallas Cowboys receiver to a four-year, $29 million contract in the off-season. Unless he is hiding an injury, Beasley has to be more involved in the offense. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/curtisrush/2019/11/03/buffalo-bills-might-be-most-flawed-6-2-team-youve-ever-seen/amp/