TwistofFate

Great read, some very interesting things I didn't know. Jim Johnson was one of the best D coordinators out there, right there with Dick Lebeau. Funny thing is, I never knew he was a TE for the Bills '63 AFL championship team. Small world. "Like McDermott, Frazier often reflects on lessons he learned from Johnson and says he's reminded of the former coach almost daily. In a twist of fate, McDermott and Frazier coach for the same franchise Johnson played tight end for back when it was a fledgling AFL team in 1963." https://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/302143/bills-sean-mcdermott-recalls-jim-johnson-eagles-days-fondly

Safety play... /end The ground that our safeties can cover and the understanding of what they need to do, allows us to disguise the majority of our coverages where a quarterback must decipher what we're actually doing post-snap. I've watched Bill Belichick go into deep detail of how difficult it is to attack our defense and it all revolves around our safeties. I know Belichick is in love with Micah Hyde. It's no surprise the safety they took in their draft from a small school was heavily scouted by Buffalo and rumored to be our pick if he was on the board. Belichick knows great defenses revolve around great safeties that's why he's always had them.

There is no crusade, its reality. Yes we won, yes i was happy, but this make believe belief that the gap between us and the Jets is as wide as the Grand Canyon is delusional. Like I said, we barely pulled out wins against both teams. A Knox power run and Tre Day pick is the difference between a W and L.

Lol, you realize it took 4th quarter heroics for us to pull out wins against both those teams, and not with all new coaches and schemes!!??

I used to hate Brady, not anymore. I hated him because he was a Patriot and killed us over and over. At the end of it though, he's a good dude. He's truly a professional at ever level. Never talked smack, great with the media, great role model for kids, an underdog his whole life, and got up from one of the hardest hits I ever seen from Nate Clements. The dude is a baller and Ive come to the conclusion the only reason I hated him is he was a Pat. If he played for any other team I'd probably liked him a long time ago.

Kansas City, 2017, coaching against Andy Reid, his former mentor. I'd even go as far to say beating Pittsburgh, in Pittsburgh, in Prime time this year. They out schemed and out prepared the Steelers. Remember Renegade?

18 and 19 year olds would be horrible in the NFL, physically, mentally and emotionally. If you declare and don't get drafted you should be able to go back and play out your college career. It's stupid you can't. There should be a 1 time cap though.

I see them not picking up his fifth year option and bringing in someone to compete for a starting job in year 4. The Bills really like Allen too, but i don't see them picking up his 5th year if he doesn't take big strides this year either. Its the same story forever in this division. For whatever reason they all suck at finding franchise guys. Its been the Achilles Heel for 20+ years and allowed the Pats to run roughshod over the entire division.

Darnold isnt too far behind...he's knocking on the bust door too. The AFC East has the hardest schedules in the NFL this year, without quarterback performance we aren't going to win, they aren't going to win. In my opinion the winner of this division comes down to Buffalo or the Jets. On paper of course we have the better coaching staff and the better roster.....but thats just paper. Nothing is proven and it's all speculation. Our shortcomings from last year have been addressed as well as the Jets. I believe both teams had a really solid draft. The only real questionable move I think the Jets made with signing Gore while already having two backs. I would assume it's to get as much inside information about our system and personnel as possible. No team in the AFC East is going to be capable of winning with the schedules we are facing without having offensive performance. I feel the bills and the Jets have the most two complete rosters with the most continuity, and the team whose offense performs better, AKA which quarterback performs better, is most likely going to determine who wins the Division. If the Jets have had a ***** draft and didn't go after and address the major holes they had, which historically in the past they haven't, this new GM they have seems pretty good, this wouldn't even be a question for me. It's just funny to me the hypocrisy I see all the time on this board. People say the Jets draft picks sucked and they're not proven but ours without even taking the field or somehow studs. Last year too many or wide receivers with trash and couldn't get open and are the reason Allen couldn't produce but this year the addition of one wide receiver has somehow drastically changed the Outlook have our receiving Corps, who many believe are the best Trio or one of the best trios in the NFL. (i believe our wide receivers weren't the problem at all, and stated it many times) My point is right now going off of what both teams actually did last year and how both address the needs they needed to this offseason, it's going to come down to which team's offense produces more consistently and better. At this point in my opinion it's a coin toss.

Hmmm, well they can't be a. 500 team, they could be a .470 or .529 Again...what did our offense do last year that you place them so far ahead of the Jets?

I don't care how you feel about these players with your emotional attachment, I'm talking about overall offensive production. Buffalo absolutely did not scare anyone on offense last year and right now will not scare anyone on offense going into this year. They haven't done anything extraordinary to make anyone fear them. Both offenses ranked in the bottom third of the league and both offenses have third-year quarterbacks who haven't really impressed anyone. Every weakness the Jets had last year their new GM addressed. I wouldn't call a 28 year old Le'Veon Bell aging as he just turned 28 in February and sat out a whole year. And yes darnold was hurt and missed multiple weeks, of course that has an effect on your offense. The bottom line is both teams added pieces that they needed, both teams have third-year quarterbacks, both teams have good defenses and both teams finished in the bottom third of all NFL teams on offense. Whichever quarterback looks better for their respective team is probably going to be the team that wins the AFC East. You'd be foolish to fall asleep on the Jets or think they didn't make big moves this offseason and improve the roster.

The Jets are vastly improved this off-season. They fortified the oline, recievers, RBs, have a stud on defense returning in Mosley, shored up their dline and secondary. Their GM has been impressive. Their offense is about as scary as ours, which isnt saying much. Both ours teams have much to prove on offense. If Darnold shows out Allen this year the Jets will most likely take the division and vice versa.

Because he plans on tanking the season while building a strong defense in order to prepare the team for his selection of Trevor Lawerence in next years draft.

Favre probably never saw a dime. That shady non profit company cooked the books and embezzled it.

As if his compound fracture and dangling leg weren't bad enough....enter Necrotizing fasciitis. Im glad it worked out for him, but damn, what a horrendous road to travel.

He's got a ways to go to beat out Fitzpatrick and Vinny "the eternal one" Testaverde to earn that title.

I love this kid, he's got it all in one package, and a great head on his shoulders.

I pick the metrics that franchise Qbs excel at. 4 quarter comebacks? Who cares? You know who else led the league in game winning for the season? Blake Bortles (2015) Geno Smith(2013) and Mariota (2017). So what is that stat telling you? Nothing. Allen ranks dead last in Completion %. He ranks 32nd in on-target throw percentage, per Sports Info Solutions. His passing break down is below in the chart. He literally falls off a cliff at about 23 yards. And that just wasn't this year, it was his rookie year as well. "Allen’s advanced metrics do not paint an encouraging picture. He ranks 24th in QBR and has a negative Expected Points Added total. And he’s 25th in net-yards-per-attempt due to all of those sacks he takes." "Even Allen’s improvement in the turnover department appears to be flukey. Yes, Allen has turned the ball over only four times (two interceptions and two fumbles lost) in the last 10 weeks, but only two players in the entire NFL have fumbled more often over that time — Buffalo has just recovered seven of his nine fumbles. And, according to Sports Info Solutions, defenders have dropped five would-be interceptions thrown by Allen since Week 10 alone." His clean pocket stats, which carry the most predictive power of any statistical split, are not very good. He ranks in the bottom-third in the league in every major metric from a clean pocket, including EPA, yards-per-attempt and accuracy percentage. https://twitter.com/QBKlass/status/1208781915790004225/photo/1 There isn’t a quarterback from the right side of that list that turned out to be any good, except for maybe Ryan Tannehill, who is having a breakout season in Tennessee … at age 30. And even if you just use Allen’s 2019 ANY/A (5.75) as the cutoff, the only quarterback of note you’re adding to the “bad” side is Andy Dalton. The bottom line is the most important analytics of a franchise Qb are absent from Allen. So I wont hold my breath waiting for him to be franchise guy, and if he fails, I'm simply happy to see McBeane has a contingency plan in the works with a steal in the fifth round. Everyone says Fromm could be successful in the right system....Newsflash, this is the right system. He's tailor made to run our style of offense.

Zero hate. Facts and data. Get your facts straight. Every piece of hard, in depth analytics on franchise Qbs says Allen is a bust. Im just happy that if that data is accurate we have another prospect waiting in the wings. Chicago wasted no time moving on from Trubisky. They declined his 5th year, brought in a solid vet, and will have a competition this year. I see a similar fate here next year with Allen and Fromm.

Because Allen is our entrenched starter. He is a first round pick we traded up for and are invested heavily in. The only way we will see Fromm is if he blows Barkley out of the water, moves to #2, and Allen gets hurt. Other than that, I don't expect to see Fromm at all this year. When I would expect to see him is next year if, and I personally believe so, Allen fails to produce franchise type numbers which ultimately cost us games. Our schedule is not play time this year. 185 yard games with multiple fumbles and 58-59% completion rate is not going to cut it. They've given him everything....stability, personnel, coaching, now he has to go produce and show he's a franchise guy. No way they pick up his 5th year option if he doesn't produce big time this year.

Because his improvement in some areas, doesn't outweigh the in depth statiscs in other areas. Plus he's going to be facing much better teams this season. In case you are forgetting, Allen was one of the worst passers in the NFL last year. He was ranked 27th in the league in completions over 10 yards. He was worst in the league in completions from a clean pocket. He was one of the worst in the league in ball placement. Now im not making this stuff up. These are in depth metrics from Sports Info Solutions, which is one of the best pro sports analytical groups out there. Yes Allen improved, but he was absolutely horrific in the key metrics franchise Qbs statistcally excel at. Does this mean he can't improve? No. It means that at this juncture in his career, and knowing his college history, (not really impressive) it is highly unlikely he turns into a franchise Qb. I posted a great article in another thread that went more in depth into the metrics. I hoped Allen would succeed and end this Qb drought. But I'd be willing to bet anything Allen will look terrible this year. By terrible I mean, more of the same. Wild throws, missing wide open recievers, glued to his first to second reads, terrible foot work and drops, holding the ball too long, and bad ball placement on his receivers. I could be wrong and he could shock the world, but the data says we have a Mitch Trubisky on our hands. Enter Fromm. A proven winning quarterback and three-year starter in the toughest division in college football. A quarterback who has thrown more passes against top defenses then any other quarterback in the draft.... "Here's the percentage of pass attempts by each top QB in the draft that came vs. top-50 defenses by SP+:" 1. Jake Fromm, 77.92% 2. Tua Tagovailoa, 60.71% 3. Joe Burrow, 57.87% 4. Justin Herbert, 44.39% 5. Jacob Eason, 35.56% 6. Jordan Love, 30.02% — Jim Sannes (@JimSannes) January 18, 2020 A kid who has beaten out every other quarterback he has gone up against. A kid who is compared to offensive coordinators or to have a future in coaching, an all around very heady football IQ individual. A kid who perfectly fits our West Coast type of offense and will pick it up and learn it immediately. In all reality a 2nd to 3rd round draft pick that we stole in the fifth round and is a phenomenal prospect if Allen falters.

Two hall of famers and a couple of starters turned back ups. Not to shabby imo.

You realize he's played against NFL caliber Dbs his whole career, right? Its silly to say it doesn't get there in the NFL. Qbs that throw with anticipation and have a decent arm will succeed, period.

I posted the exact throw Nagy was talking about on the first page. 18-19 yard out from the opposite hash mark on a rope and on time. He made it pretty easily and that is about as tough as it gets.

What does Peterman have to do with Fromm? I can show TONS of highlights of Josh Allen not even able to hit the broad side of a barn, so who cares about his arm strength? How many deep passes and outs did Allen wiff on this past year? TONS. He was one of the worst passers in the NFL, that is a fact. I'm not even close to sold on Allen, as every single in depth, meaningful statistic shows he is going to fail.