TwistofFate

Well rumors would be wrong.... And im down for that bet with you... Self ban You are so confident Allen is going to be the next best thing.

Like I already said, easiest bet there could be. Ill take that bet for 100$ all day. History is on my side, analytics are on my side, Strength of Schedule is on my side. Ill go 100$ same as with Alpha.

There's no doubt he's a darkhorse candidate.

Easiest bet ill ever win. Ill call you on that right now. Allen has never eclipsed 60% in his entire career when attempting more than 20 passes. That includes college. You can write a book why everyone else is wrong, but you are completely off base for two simple reasons. 1. He's never done it 2. Every meaningful advanced metric says the likelihood he does do it is slim to none. The amout of deep throws he attempts is irrelevant. The mean % of every deep throw made over the last decade is 30%. Allens % is abysmal.

I wont. Proving me wrong means we have a franchise Qb, and that's something we can all get behind. Welcome to the show, what took so long?

Great so I'm going to use ESPN stats where you have no idea how to define the word ordinary. Wonderful.

Whats ordinary effort? Your ordinary effort could be different than mine. Is jumping ordinary effort? Is stopping to change direction and catch a pass thrown behind you ordinary effort? Is tracking the ball thrown over the wrong shoulder considered ordinary effort? Is lunging ordinary effort?

Beg to differ all you would like it's right there in black and white. If it's outside the receivers reach that means the receiver never touched it which means it's not a drop it's an incompletion.

That is so wrong I don't know where to begin. If the ball hits you in the hands and you don't catch it it's a drop. We're not talking about passes defended we're talking about drops. Drop statistic do not take into account how bad the pass was only if it hit the receiver in the hands and they dropped it. What is Drops? This statistic counts the number of times an intended receiver touches the ball but fails to catch it. If the ball is thrown but the receiver never gets his hands on it, it is not recorded as a drop. It is recorded by some teams and publications, but not officially by the NFL. Sporting Charts explains Dropped Pass - Drops Dropping passes is an accepted part of the game, but professional receivers are expected to catch every ball thrown their way that is not batted down by a defender or outside their reach. As such, dropped passes are recorded to keep track of which receivers are actually catching the ball when they are supposed to. Typically and on average, a professional receiver will drop about 8-9 passes over the course of a season. The widely recognized leader of passes dropped for a season is Terrell Owens, but finding exact numbers is difficult.

No, you aren't taking into consideration the On Target throws that he's one of the worst in the league for. I posted a video in this link of the terrible throws he's made this season and how many drops are in that video are from horrific throws that receivers were diving all over the field in an attempt to catch? Drop statistics do not calculate how bad of a pass it was the receiver was attempting to catch. You are trying to make it cut and dry black and white as if it's simply the receiver just dropping perfect balls which clearly is not the case.

I'm not adding attempts. In week 16, he would need to complete 32 passes for 100% accuracy hit the mark you're talking about. Again it's not as minuscule as you make it seem. What you're attempting to do is one of the oldest sales tactics in the book. It's like saying hey you can drive this beautiful car for only $15 a day for the next 5 years. $15 a day? People spend more than that on a pack of cigs and a coffee every day. Its nothing!

Its nice that you package it so nicely to seem miniscule....but...2+ passes a game X 16 games is 32 passes. He would need 100% completion rating in a game where he threw 32 passes to make up that difference. It's a lot more than you pretend it to be.

The video im going to post right now gets me in trouble, but this is the truth. People who are questionable of Allen see the things you don't think exist. This video shows all the weakness of Allen that people make excuses for. Take notice to several things throughout this video. 1. Clean pockets and amount of time Allen has to pass. 2. Ball placement of each throw. Was it optimal placement to give the receiver YAC? How far off the mark is each throw? 3. Count how many balls counted as DROPS, that were nearly impossible catches that receivers layed out for or jumped through the air or tried to become contortionists to catch. Allen's single greatest problem is his accuracy. Thus far in his career he is stilled plagued by his biggest knock....consistency of his throws. I'm really at a loss that people can't objectively see his major weakness. Can he light it up this year? Yes. Did they give him the tools to succeed? Yes. Is his accuracy still his biggest concern??? YES Will he step up this season and take this franchise by the reins????? "?" Imo, history is not on his side.

You plainly explain his accuracy issues, after you claim he doesn't have accuracy issues. *smh* What do our team wins have to do with Allen's accuracy? I find it ludicrous that anyone can sit and say Allen doesn't have accuracy issues. It's completely mind boggling to me.

We would win a SB this year with Aaron Rodgers...guaranteed.

It's been an issue his entire collegiate career as well as his 2 years now in the pros. It's most certainly an issue. It's the single biggest issue he has.

Allen needs a big jump. The article is on point. This team is a Qb away from real championship aspirations. If he doesn't take the jump, he will be competing in 2021 for a starting job. There really isn't any excuse this year. It's do or die time.

I'll say it again, he wasn't even aware he had mono. I had mono in high school, I wasn't even aware I had it either. I had to miss games as well, for the same reason. (enlarged spleen that could rupture if hit wrong) The point remains, it doesn't matter he had mono, its irrelevant as to the Qb talent.

Who cares? That's last year. We were growing as a team as well, with a ton of new pieces. And what's with the Darnold, "with mono?" Like that means anything. The guy played and didn't even know he had mono, and it wouldn't have mattered if he didn't. Playing against Darnold without mono doesn't elevate his status whatsoever. Beating upper echelon teams requires quality Qb play, which clearly didn't exist here last year. If, IF, Allen steps up his game, there will be no problem beating top tier opponents this year. This team is literally a QB away from curb stomping 3/4 of the league.

They are going to be using Moss a lot more than just in the red zone. There's most likely going to be close to 50/50 split in terms of carries. Then they will be used situationally depending on down and distance. You're going to see Moss used a lot on 1st down. His hard-nosed running will put us a lot in the 2 and 5 to go range. Now you bring out Devin who can pick it up through the air, on the ground, or a staight up pass play.

It does not account for how catchable the pass was. Allen ranks 32nd in on-target throw percentage, per Sports Info Solutions. Only four quarterbacks have a lower “completion percentage over expectation” — David Blough, Dwayne Haskins, Gardner Minshew and Jared Goff — per Next Gen Stats. If you had to dive 5 yards across the field, or jump 10 feet in the air, then get your hands on the ball but are unable to haul it in, it counts as a DROP. The quality of the pass isn't taken into account in drop statistics. Luckily advanced metrics track these things and Allen is rank 32nd in on target throws. When you take into account all the data, it becomes pretty clear why we are so high on the drop scale.

Yea, the only thing that whole article proved to me is how incompetent Whaley and the rest of OBD was back then. This kid had more red flags than a matador and we trade up for him. What a disgrace.

Not really. It describes a state of time, mainly past to the present. Example: "Fromm has yet to show he's a capable NFL Qb." There's no implication of future success or failure, just the current state of the situation. Faith or hope would be better words to describe the future.

Allen, obviously. There's still hope for him this year. Trubisky, on the other hand, pretty much sealed his own fate last season.

Joe Douglas surprised the ***** out of me. After the draft he had, it became clear to me he's legit and will make the Jets a contender. Imo, the Jets are going to be our toughest division opponents this year. I think Miami has too many new moving parts and New England is looking to tank this season to draft their new franchise Qb next draft. This division is going to be won by the Bills or Jets.