clayboy54

He’s just not consistently good yet. We will have to agree to disagree on this, then.

“Just about every” is a real reach here. They’ve definitely missed completely on a few, a few have taken time to become serviceable, but just in the fast handful of years, they found Rousseau, Elam, Hamlin, Davis, Bass, Jackson, Knox, Singletary, Oliver, and of course Allen, Dawkins, Edmunds and Johnson. They’re all starting within a year or two of their selection. I hope you don’t typically expect day-1 impact from most draft choices, because that’s not realistic. This is not to say each of the above are superstars. They are high quality contributors with growth potential. So, let’s not confuse somebody saying guys like Edmunds suck with the fact they all became NFL quality players in less than 3-years.

Yes, he’s had a few very good runs. “A few” being the key idea here. He has not shown enough to cause coaches to take somebody else off the field more often then they already are.

I know I’m not the only one who feels this way, but Teddy Bruschi is seriously mentally challenged. I mean, how can he even be on TV? He makes Rex Ryan look like a mental genius.

Maybe he just can’t play at this level yet. Like Cook. With some guys it just takes a little time. Some guys never get it. Who knows?

They’re switching to crushed stone.

NFL football is the ultimate team game for a reason. Every cog in the wheel matter a lot. When even one guy goes down it affects the entire 11-man squad. Somebody has to change what their 1/11th is to cover up for a backup’s deficiency. That changes everything. When you have multiple guys out it forces others to play differently to cover deficiencies and bingo, the whole unit looks like trash. Next man up is nice, but unless you have 22 starters on that side of the ball, it ain’t going to fly. as was pointed out by someone else, missing Edmunds has also really pressured the backend. I would remind you that only Taron Johnson has not missed time in the secondary.

You’re going to get crucified in this thread buddy. But I agree with you 100%. Best of luck.

Nah. Too many people on here want to let him walk. No need to waste the turkey on him.

I would remind you that we have only one healthy player in his native position. Taron Johnson. Poyer is a shadow of himself out there right now, with one arm almost literally tied behind his back. Yes, they look pretty weak as a unit. There is a darn good reason for it. Dane is one of those playing out of his native position. There is a huge difference between having to hold down the #1 slot on the outside, and being the #2 guy. Dane is just not THE #1 guy by NFL standards.

Just saying what I’m seeing. No need to harp on the negative. No problem.

Apparently nothing to you, Bevis. The guy is hurt more than anybody is letting on. Wouldn’t you be confused if you had a crazy amount of pain? What I hope for is that Josh gets to feeling better!

You must admit that some of the quarterback play is more related to non-pressure, though. There’s not too many NFL quarterbacks who can’t thread the needle when given enough time. Even Geno fricken Smith. Okay, maybe not Baker. I can accept what you are saying. I just think a little (not a lot) more of Dane than you do.

Did you see Josh’s postgame presser? When asked about Romo’s comments about how injured he really is, his response was very telling. Watch it. He didn’t say “I’m okay” or anything of the sort. If you ask me, his facial expression and non-answer tells me he is in pretty rough shape, physically. This explains a whole lot about his recent play, the interception and even the play calls. It’s really interesting, actually.

Those guys also have a lot of growth potential ahead of them moving forward! We really need Tre, we really need Hyde and we really need a fully healthy Poyer. Right now, we don’t have them. Don’t keep being “one of those guys” on here. You were always a valued poster. You are starting to become another whiner. Look at the film and clean up your game.

You are so very right! Edmunds is a big deal in this defense. Screw all the Edmunds haters here. He is clearly a guy we need on the field today and moving forward. He has stepped up his game big time this year. You can see how much he is missed when he’s not playing. You just cannot ask too much from guys that are good doing their 1/11th but are not capable of covering the entire field. Frankly, no one, even Sauce is.

#2 guys do not get exposed typically because they are not going against #1 receivers. A couple teams have 1a and 1b receivers like Miami and Minnesota. Most don’t. KC doesn’t unless you consider Kelce a wr. Will Dane ever be Sauce Gardner? Nope… not a chance. When you add in the experience he is getting subbing for Tre, he might just be one of the better #2 guys once the pressure is off, (assuming Tre gets back to 100%). Add in Elam & Benford next season and beyond, and you have the makings of a top corner corps.

Like I said about Dane, Hamlin has some real nice skills. The way we are comparing is suspect. If you expect Hyde and get Hamlin, you are going to be very disappointed. Hamlin could be a Hyde with more experience and coaching. He’s clearly not that in year 2. When your top leaders and QBs of the secondary (Hyde) are gone, or severely limited (Poyer), and your best cover guy is - wherever he is in his recovery - you get what we are seeing. This experience is going a long, long way toward their development, but is in no way an even exchange for our starting back end. When only Taron is left in his actual starting position, you’re screwed no matter who you have waiting in the wings. Dane is a decent #2 or a wonderful #3. He’s not ready for #1. Hamlin is a high ceiling backup with lots of potential. He’s likewise not ready for prime time, yet.

While this may not have needed another thread, it seems like a hot topic. Dane has good coverage skills. He needs to work on his ball skills and getting his head around at the right time. He is not a bust. He is way better #2 than Levi Wallace, but he’s not a #1-type corner. He still has room to grow, in my opinion. Against Detroit, Goff was throwing the ball really well. He surprised me, frankly. I didn’t think he had that in him. His receivers, much like the past couple games, played above their normal ceiling. They had some great catches and the routes and positioning were really good technically. Dane was not out of position much the past several weeks. He just needs to be better closing the deal.

And, Diggs was a hair short of breaking it for the score. He even spoke about that in his postgame presser.

It’s a nickname for Rousseau going back before he was a Bill. Kind of like “clown” for most of your posts. 😇

I totally agree with you on your point alone, but if the players begin getting complacent during the midseason lull, I believe fans will tune out until the playoffs.

With the way fans are reacting after these past two wins, I’d be more concerned that the game might just be cancelled. Unless of course, all the coaches are fired and players are cut between now and then.

The number of games doesn’t equate to anything except cash distribution, (see you at the next contract negotiation). Neither does the kind of turf, quite frankly. Now, with modern training techniques, new bodybuilding supplements, year-round weight training, etc., the professional athlete is exponentially faster, stronger, has more stamina and is much more in-tune with his/her body. This extra speed and strength equate to more types of injuries with more frequency. Since the players are way more concerned with their health and associated earnings potential, the lull during the season should be expected. Slow and steady wins the race. Speaking of races, it reminds me of when I was working during the 80s and 90s in NASCAR. The season got longer as more tracks were added and everybody’s event needed to be 500 laps. In short order, the races became snoozefests as the drivers raced for position in the first 20 laps or so, rode around for 470 laps and raced like their hair was on fire for the last 10 laps. Today, there’s an awful lot of empty seats at NASCAR events. Likewise, if players “coast” through the middle of the season, nursing slight ailments and simply positioning for the playoffs, there will be plenty of empty seats at the games and the broadcasts will end up on TSN, FSN or ESPN2 just like the NASCAR races.

I bet you’re a lot of fun when you’re torturing prisoners!