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The message from the left has definitely changed since Obama's spending spree. I remember the excuse was that we aren't close to a tipping point, or that the US economy can absorb much more debt. Now the talking point from the left is that deficits and debt doesn't matter at all, and as Rep AOC is fond of pushing: money doesn't matter, only social justice.
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The us credit rating has been downgraded, then raised back the last few years. It's starting to fluctuate, when before it was solid. It made the news, how could you miss it? You can't seriously believe that deficit spending and debt has no negative effects on the economy. This is like those people who think raising the minimum wage to 15$/hr doesn't increase prices because the graph has no spike, despite the fact that cost of living in blue states is ridiculously high. The Fed can't go any lower than 0% interest rate and the economy still stagnated. Do you believe that the USA is somehow immune? What makes you think we can't become Zimbabwe?
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Your bias is showing. Both parties use deficits to push their "plan". Republicans believe that the primary responsibility of any government is defense of its people (they aren't wrong). The only debate is the appropriate level of defense. While you make fun of the right for prioritizing national defense, they're making fun of the left for wasting money on global warming, and entitlements. Personally, the justification for deficit spending from the left is far more ridiculous than the right's... but that's my bias (and common sense) showing.
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You're still thinking in short term gains. The price of keeping inflation low was to stagnate the economy into the slowest recovery in history. ...And the US still has a debt payment that will eat a large portion of the budget. We paid (and still paying) for that deficit spending, with interest. Confidence in the US dollar is steadily declining, (as instances of downgraded credit show), bringing us closer to the start of hyper-inflation. I've read a few articles by "progressives" who believe that it's better to spend the money now, while the currency still has value. I think Obama even mentioned that it would easier to pay for his deficits as inflation increases. This thinking seems to be the very core of you're argument. Deficit spending is great because it produces short term gains, and the "smart" people can just keep pushing the market corrections to the future indefinitely. This is the false premise you've based you're entire viewpoint on that invalidates your argument. Government deficit spending does not put MORE labor and capital into use, it merely moves it from the private sector, or borrows from future resources (which have to be paid back or risk collapse, GREECE/VENEZUELA). In the long term, their is a negative net gain, when you include the waste inherent with this type of manipulation. The only real effect it has is to give politicians the power to shape the economy towards a societal (hopefully beneficial) plan; ie alternative evergy. This is the same talking point we beat our heads against when idiots advocate for a $15/hr. minimum wage. The argument you need to make about deficit spending isn't about improving the economy, but using it to enact social justice.
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You're confusing demand with wealth creation. Deficit spending manipulates the equilibrium point by producing large areas of waste. While it may seem to increase production in the short term, the market has to account for the waste by devaluing the product, currency or both to bring it back to where it was before. However, because of the inherent inefficiency of government, wealth is destroyed in the process. While government spending can be a useful to tool to regulate the economy, the temporary economic high it brings ALWAYS creates an equally low swing to maintain balance. What you're arguing isn't actually creating wealth, but advocating for more volatile swings in the economic pendulum, with a naive belief that someone "smart" can figure out how to keep it under control. So while you're trying to convince us that deficit spending will bring with it improved infrastructure, social programs, and jobs for everyone (Venezuela) We're telling you that we're afraid of the eventual swing to starvation, homelessness, and riots (also Venezuela). Your understanding of wealth seems to be inflation, where bread that used to cost $2 is now worth $4.
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Star Wars or Star Trek--Vote Your Fav!
unbillievable replied to NoHuddleKelly12's topic in Off the Wall Archives
Star Wars died with The Last Jedi: The Search For Gas. - -
Who was GM when Jason Peters was dealt?
unbillievable replied to LabattBlue's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Everyone was making a big deal out of Mack's stats during that game. But if you watched Peters, which I did because I didn't care about either team, you would notice that he looked awful. His "dominance" consisted of being big enough to block a direct line to Foles. He barely got a hand on anyone and was consistently beat inside and out. The eagles just game planned to get the ball out quickly. Edit: I guess being bull-rush proof is a good thing. Forcing Bears to run around you is a type of pass protection. -
Who was GM when Jason Peters was dealt?
unbillievable replied to LabattBlue's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
How many felt that letting Jarius Byrd go was history repeating itself? -
Who was GM when Jason Peters was dealt?
unbillievable replied to LabattBlue's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Between Jason Peters and Marshawn Lynch, how many other future hall of famers did that regime give away? -
Who was GM when Jason Peters was dealt?
unbillievable replied to LabattBlue's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
What game where you watching? Peters was not good in pass protection. He was as dominant as an orange traffic cone. Philadelphia game planned around the bears pass rush. -
I recently experienced a strange phenomenon at work: One of the twenty-somethings mentioned that he should get a bonus for making it through December without missing a day of work. While he does stand out as one of the few young'un's who didn't call in sick during the holidays, most of the older folks managed to show up everyday without much fanfare. I wonder when the reality of needing to go to work every single day actually sets in for adults? 30?
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg Has Fallen
unbillievable replied to 3rdnlng's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
It doesn't matter whether she attends or not. Everyone already knows which way she will vote. -
Oregon to vote on legal shrooms
unbillievable replied to Royale with Cheese's topic in Off the Wall Archives
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Participation trophies/medals are just souvenirs. That's their sentimental value. People/kids don't actual think they accomplished something, but we keep them to remind us that we got off the couch that one time... Since those problems occur across class lines, it's clearly an education problem. I always found it ridiculous that 25% of my college credits had to be in the humanities, but those liberal arts kids didn't have to take any math/science classes. It's more important to spot a metaphor than to balance a budget.
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The Worst Acts of the Trump Administration
unbillievable replied to Swill Merchant's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
1)He put children in chicken coops and sent their parents back to die in their home countries. 1)He killed us all (eventually)by pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement. 1)His tweets create terrorists. 1)His very existence causes criminals to commit crimes 1)He continues to be orange. -
How Often Do You Go To The Movies?
unbillievable replied to The Real Buffalo Joe's topic in Off the Wall Archives
I go about 2-3 times a month. You need to see Aquaman in the theater. It's the best visual effects I've ever seen. Better than Avatar. Much better than Star Wars. Unfortunately, the story is pretty standard. -
The Mizzou/Yale/PC/Free Speech Topic
unbillievable replied to FireChan's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
After doing a rough estimation where you convert the scores to pre-2005 then again to pre-90's,... it roughly translates to 1100 The SAT's have gotten a lot easier multiple times. Edit: SAT switched back from 2400 to 1600 and made the essay portions optional in 2017. It's difficult to judge scores because of the recent changes. To put it in perspective, It's a score in the 70th percentile. -
The Mizzou/Yale/PC/Free Speech Topic
unbillievable replied to FireChan's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
"Do you want fries with that?" -
Those costs are for people that worked less than 10 years by the time they are 65 years old?
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Pyramid scheme or MLM?
unbillievable replied to Not at the table Karlos's topic in Off the Wall Archives
Replace "companies" with a political party and you can stick this thread in PPP -
Apple spent money researching, and producing custom screws that break easily and requires special tools to remove. Imagine owning a car where the dealership has the only set of keys to open your hood and gas cap, because they think you're too stupid to pump your own gas or change your oil, then realize there is a large group of consumers out there who think they're better than the rest of us because we want to get our hands dirty doing something so simple ourselves.