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Being knocked out does not equal being concussed. When did that become an assumption?

He was really strong in camp and in sync with Josh. I think @Kirby Jackson made some good points about how he's being used and how the Bills are being defended earlier in this thread, and those tactics need to be adjusted to... I also 100% think the turf toe is still bothering him. He's not old enough to just drop off the map like that yet.

In the end, I'd bet you Josh would honestly like to have that throw back, and not just his normal take the blame media speak, but in reality. There's no way I or you can prove it, but it just wasn't a great throw in my opinion. Would some WR's adjust properly and catch it? Yes of course. It seems to be Josh's only remaining area that consistently needs improvement (the deep ball). As tends to happen on this board, we're getting too extreme with the black and white, all or nothing blame game. Hollins is indeed just a guy, but him getting 100% blame for not only this play but now multiple plays throughout the season where Josh has been off target with him is just off. "Garbage WR" is literally just your invested emotions coming through, or maybe you feel like there are dozens and dozens of depth WR's in the league who are "garbage". You know what you mean, sure, but in the case of a public debate, it doesn't help (call that just my opinion if you like). It sends a message of Josh can do no wrong and nothing is ever on him, which just isn't accurate. And I think Josh is the best Bill of all time, or at least right there with Bruce Smith. Would I love to have one or two better deep ball tracking WR's on the team? Hell yeah.

When a qb hits that deep open spot vs a cover 2 zone past the depth of where the lb can drop to. It can also be the hole between the corner and safety on the deep outside. Gruden used to call that the “ turkey hole”

Not what I was asking you really, but ok thx. Like do you know how they would measure those zone responsibilities? I find it similar to PFF blocking grades, so I want to be careful is all. How would you measure who's responsibility a hole shot completion between 2 zone defenders was? Is it the trailing corner or the over the top safety?

I agree that Lewis is a liability out there as a starter (would be the case for any backup on any team). Its pretty visibly obvious at times. Do tell me though about the faith that you have in these calculations (ie. player x is allowing whatever completion % and yards per attempt against), when the Bills use more zone coverage than almost any team out there. Do you feel like they do a great job of determining which player has actual responsibility when say one man is in trail coverage technique while another plays over top? Serious question here, not doubting you... but maybe doubting the stat provider.

there are collectively bargained standards for what coaches are allowed to say about players. He would literally get fined or grieved for revealing what you're looking for him to say.

2 entire halves of running the clock out with a multi-score lead and yet I can't believe just how many smart posters on this board are still citing stats over 4 games in comparison. It may pan out either way, yes, but the goal of the Bills offense is moving the ball and scoring points to secure a victory in each game. through 3 games the Bills did that better than every other team in the league. In the 4th game, they failed at it pretty badly. Let's see where it is after 8-10 weeks at least? and measure "success" off of scoring points and moving the ball (generating 1st downs) and not how many yards some WR has or doesn't have. That is how the Bills will be measuring their own success or lack there of, regardless of how some fans want to measure it. With that said, I wouldn't mind Adams at all if we can somehow make the financials work (doubtful)! Of course he would make the team better.

The reason the original post is so ridiculous is because we CAN see him being tentative and thoughtful about getting down before the hitter arrives, understanding the consequences of doing otherwise... Its clear visibly. He's gearing down as contact approaches. Its not like he is struggling running as hard and fast as he can in these instances and just coming up short of the mark. That's a visible thing. The only thing that could really be debated here is not the original question, but whether he is being more tentative because of the hand injury or because of the advice he's been given finally sinking in about living to play another down. That answer will be learned once the hand is healed.

For those citing stats in either narrative's direction - of the 85 minutes and 20 seconds the Bills offense has had the ball thus far in 3 games, approximately 25 minutes of it has been running out the clock with large leads in hand. The course of a season should balance things out so that the numbers have some sort of significance, at least for the gist of this debate.

Who honestly thinks Troy Aikman was a better QB than Dan Marino? Those of you that say what matters is the rings do. And you're wrong.

You know I love you and I'm just busting your balls, but I do recall pointing out to you that he was literally one of the top 5 most athletic O-linemen ever drafted... Ever. It was just a matter of development on technique and staying healthy.

All but 2 of us are eliminated 🤣 Can we get a mulligan after one of these 2 folks win? LOL

You’d think one of the local media reporters could ask Coach if the kick was tipped or not in his regular press conference. I didn’t hear it being brought up.

Dumb dumbs complaining about our run the clock out offense is pretty entertaining at this late stage!

probably something to do with Murray being 5'9"

Lamar Jackson IS a great NFL player and overall QB, likely worthy of the HOF, while at the same time being an average passer and reader of defenses. It can all be true at the same time, and is.

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Are you? Thinking those places I cited are more difficult to kick in than Buffalo NY??? Hahahaha

Attending games in those stadiums does but wtvr man you do you with stats that show it’s more difficult to kick in places like Miami, Jacksonville, Tampa, Tennessee, Oakland,AZ and Houston. L M A O !!! Either way we agree he’s shot now

While I 100% agree that Bass may now be done here, simply citing fg% for prior years is a bit simplistic because kicking in Buffalo, NY is not the same as kicking in domes and many southern/ western locations. Bass was plenty good enough ( given, never a “top” kicker) for 2/3 years for this team. Now, not so much. I believe only Pittsburgh ( more due to the field) is considered a harder place to kick than Buffalo.

Hamler doing Samuel things

Smh Bass

Davidson! And ik ik level of competition, but both these backup QBs are at least willing passers. It’s refreshing.

What a drive by Gore and the o line