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Josh advised the reasoning for the run call in is post game interview. McDermott talked about it too in his. The Jets (potentially best D in the game) were in a 2 high shell and the run call was to get the team into 3rd and manageable and "steal some yards" with a run call. (you don't want to be totally behind the sticks on 3rd down vs a team like that. Its sound logic, from a football coaching perspective, despite what many of you think, especially against a great D. Just didn't make a guy miss on the carry. Don't look to hard tonight for other "reasons" for the loss beyond Josh making 3 really bad decisions.

Wow we've got some real 'interesting' fans. Cook is a super talented runner and receiving back for our scheme. LMAO at so many of you. He's not going to break many tackles, that was already known. Seriously, focus on the reality that Josh had an awful game. Cook played well against a monster run D. He gets the edge well, he runs inside well too. Dudes, we were running him on read option out of a shotgun spread formation on most downs. Made his catches too. this thread is nonsense. Loss was almost entirely on Josh and a little on the special teams. I can't fathom why anyone would even think to see Cook as a problem.

HBD SDS!

Fixed

No doubt. He was embarrassingly awful and somehow got away with something like 20 false starts?

The quote is likely more relevant to Frazier's defense when he was the HC in Minnesota. The Bills didn't run a ton of true Tampa 2. They ran more cover 3, cover 2 man (which varies from Tampa 2), quarters coverage, etc. But of course dolts are going to open fire at any opportunity. With that said, I am excited for the prospect of some more risk taking in McDermott's D, than when under Frazier.

Doomed

your curiosity is well founded, @Success, and @Zerovoltz, your assumption about his film watching comment is wrong (and thats fine, but FYI). For the dumb dumbs (such as KDiggz) that have heard the comment and still think there's an issue, none of us can help you fools. But the context of the comment was about watching film, specifically of a team like the Jets. What he was saying essentially was that he doesn't want to get TOO caught up in relying on film tendencies of a team (ie. when we come out in a wide spread with these guys on the field and run this play, the Jets are always going to react a certain way...). So he likes to blend knowing what they do as a reaction on film with what he see's ON the field with his eyes. Because teams will bait you with that sh*t. Why this seems to be so difficult for some people to grasp is beyond me.

Between the ears my a$$. Josh rated up there with Drew Bees and Joe Burrow on intelligence testing coming into the league. As much as we all think we know answers that people who spend 80-100 hours per week dissecting this sport for a living don’t, it ain’t the case. Even being the best team in the league, sometimes by a lot, is no guarantee of even making it to a Super Bowl. It has happened many times to many teams. And yes, Marino was still the best QB I’ve ever seen. 0 Super Bowl wins.

I believe it was Jim (Mouse) McNally but I could be mistaken it's been a while...

Filthy likes the Dolphins

Bills have the better QB, O-line, TE's, RB's and Safeties. D-line (don't forgot Von, Floyd and Groot) and CB is a wash/tie Fish have better WR's, LB's Bills Roster > Fish Roster

Dawkins ( despite preseason performances which mean nothing) is an above average LT in the league. Not a star. But not a jag. This is proven. Morse is an above average Center… same rationale as above with Dawkins McGovern excels in pass protection. He has a track record. He has been playing well on the Bills. There is film review if this is you know how to use YouTube. This is the Bills addressing a need. Torrence has looked like the real deal thus far and is winning the job ( tough to do as a rookie on this team!). He has looked good on film reviews from both games so far. Ie. Even Brown has had some better play ( see the Torrence video above) than the torches and pitchforks people realize. Given that, he still has a lot to prove and also needs to stay healthy. The Bills have a good reserve G and C in Bates. What does all this tell us? Josh DOES have protection and the team has addressed it how they could this off season considering their contracts and cap situation. Is it the ‘91 hogs or the ‘93 Cowboys o line? No… but in today’s NFL, this line up is pretty competent. Not perfect by any means, but competent. And someone also astutely pointed out that at times, Josh makes things very difficult on the o line… this is true. This is not something Josh necessarily needs to change its just a fact and part of the equation.

Its repeated nationally, by many tuned into the game in its current state, because its true. Aside to that, that's what my discussion with SC was about... Hoping for improvement in the Bills Starting O-line, while realizing that depth is not always possible. The "excuse Beane" part of the discussion is a childish approach that I don't really try to get involved with.

Yep.. and much like with mister Mahomes, Josh and the offense would be near unstoppable (its close already w/o) with a top 10 OL. I can only imagine how unfair it would look out there.

Good points and I agree. We must also remember that the entire NFL is short on quality depth at O-Line positions in general. There's not a ton coming up through the pipelines in college football.

Mental health issues aside, I just still can't believe how many fans (and gulp, some GMs!) actually thought Johnny was going to be even a decent NFL player. There was never a chance of that. It was abundantly clear. It wasn't just because he didn't study film.

Good write-up Gunner, thanks! I was there, not in my normal seats in 335 but down at the 100 level around the 40 yard line ( always fun to check other views in the pre-season ). Only thing I disagree on was that Elam had a bad day. He was pretty solid out there, and his flag was a bit ticky tack as you said. Kyle Allen has the tools, but was not making it to 2nd and 3rd read very often. Was so happy for Shakir on those 1st two tough catches, then the wind leaves his sails on the easy drop Very happy with Cook and Murray and the starting O-line was solid.

None of us would expect any less. Its his thing and he seems to get off on it.

Poyer being out today is presumed to be a Vet rest day.

How is Josh even as low as #8 this year on the NFL Top 100 list? I don't understand. I know, I know, that's still really high on the list and its whatever and just a list but seriously...

Yes, he was.

wait, what about Bills vs Vikings? (0-4 vs 0-4 in Super Bowls) 😀 ... looks like @Limeaid already got that

To @Einstein's credit (😱), pointing out the perfect throw there in the small cover 2 window is the truly amazing thing about that highlight. Wow. Sherfield has been looking consistently solid in camp though, yes. Our depth Wr's are definitely improved.