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Thats the nature of drafting aye. Sure was an awful pick... I think it was just a longer term plan that they discussed with the Pegulas at the time and agreed on as an organization. They had to put lipstick on a pig for a while, and knew that was likely going to be the case. They made some business decisions on non-character guys that hampered them financially, along with some other limitations from previous contracts. They believed all along that Allen would eventually be great. And yes, very good to great QB's are always what keeps a franchise at the top on a multi-year approach. They are really zero exceptions to this any more. Some like the Rams-ish short term approach to winning. The Bills org isn't that. Some like it. Some don't.

2017 was competitive because of a new mindset, expectations and a lot of luck. 2018 was the year Josh was drafted, and the team was still being built around him, including some tough cuts who didn't fit the mold. 2019 was a growth year but I still call it transitional because the total transition to the operation they have been since 2020 was still in play. I don't see Peterman as anything but a joke of a QB, insert placeholder QB here. Our leadership was of the philosophy that they didnt want to throw Josh to the wolves too early, until they realized the garbage they had in Peterman.

Oh I am quite sure you know what I meant about 2019, but if I need to spell it out, apologies. Its a growth year with some of their still young picks and they were still adding pieces and working around financial constraints to boot, along with Josh learning more on the fly as a very raw but uber-talented piece of clay that he was.

To think that 2018 (and 2019 even for that matter) was anything more than a planned transitional year for a multitude of reasons is kinda funny. Have at it, all you "I-know-better"s

Wasn't it Fina that said "My job is done after 3 seconds"? Man that would be rough with the current state of quarterbacking, especially with a QB like Josh.

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Been to dozens of those through the years. That loss at home to the Colts a few years back was sure wet! I think its the fact that I'm fortunate enough to have good rain gear and winter gear that keeps me comfy. Growing up a skier and a sailor probably helps too.

I, very simply, love going to AND watching football games that involve the elements of the weather. I love the additional factors that come into play. It's been this way since I started playing the game and watching it as a youngster. It does not make me the least bit tougher, weaker, smarter, or less smart. It's simply a preference. This debate, like many debates here is way off the rails. There are many that share this opinion on the game, and nobody will change that no matter what stupid insults are thrown around. The 49ers game last season was my favorite game I attended outside of the Ravens playoff game. It's just the way it is.

and with one of those dudes being Roquan Smith, that's pretty special

With all the check downs and getting the ball out quick last season, Cowherd already acknowledged last season that Josh had graduated from "Cavs w/ Lebron". Now he is regurgitating his pre 2024 take. Sigh, predictable and lame.

Bishop looked waaaaaaay better than Rapp last night for those of us discussing it in my section last night at the game. No issues with keeping the kid in there. He's going to improve. Rapp, I am not so sure... He's just limited but has his games occasionally.

Strong got killed on crossers throughout the game. Besides that he was decent, and did make a nice save on Henry.

There was no soft prevent that we saw live at the stadium with our full ability to watch the safeties. The ravens may have blitzed less late 3rd Q to early4th Q ( then attempting to tighten back up) but covered with safeties over the top all night even early in the game. They wanted to make Josh take the check downs and we were biting on that and our screens weren’t working. Weak take to say our receiving success was due to prevent. And inaccurate. The Tight Ends were utilized well in the passing game too. side note- good to see Kincaid getting dirty in the blocking game tonight

because they don't understand the game. Lots of hot air out there... If a db is 10 yards off the LOS, that is where the coach expects him to be. That said, Elam was not great, but looked more competent out there than he did in our scheme and was decent.