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Everyone knows he never bothered studying his playbook in college or in Cleveland and was usually last in, first out. I wouldn't touch him until he's demonstrated a complete reversal of form in that regard. Let him be somebody else's experiment. That said, I hope the kid can truly turn it around because he does have some talent as you said. CFL would be the best place to show he's turned it around off the field.

I don't necessarily disagree but I don't equate cerebral capacity with mental toughness, which is another way of saying CBs need short memories. I'm only looking at it in terms of the sheer amount of playbook material to master. Of course they need to dedicate themselves to film study but so does every player at any position that's committed to the game. It's the old "the closer you line up to the ball, the more you need to know" school of thought. I'm certainly not calling CBs dummies, either. Intelligence lends itself to all positions, after all. And CBs still have to be the best athletes on the field, too, as the sheer physical requirements of the position demand. My main point is that mastering zone coverage is a helluva lot more demanding than man to man principals.

Not as much as how he responds in the game after that bad game. I don’t care what player in what sport at which level, there are going to be games where you just don’t have it. It’s just the nature of the beast. It’s all about how the player gets off the mat.

I like the conjecture game, too, so here goes. If we had kept Darby, he would have been exposed in a scheme not suited for him, would have lost his starting job out of training camp and seen his playing time eventually decrease to just special teams as a result, and thus would have far less trade value and we’d just end up waiving him after finding no trading partners. There is no end to the scenarios we can create after the fact. Simple fact is, our secondary had its best season in a while without him so it’s a stretch for me to believe he would have contributed to the point of increasing his trade value to anything more than the 3rd rounder we received.

And got us into cap hell, too.

Sure would love to have that problem.

Franchise QB: didn't have one, couldn't get one. 'Nuff said.

Of course, he has all the athleticism necessary, although, as said earlier, he doesn't fit McD's preference for tall CBs with length. As to the cerebral aspects of the position, CB is by far the easiest position on the field to master; the playbook section for CBs is the shortest in the book. Especially where man coverage is concerned. But zones do require an entire mastery of the various coverage areas and knowing where everyone else is in relation to your position. Proper depths and drop angles are critical as well, kind of akin to a wideout that needs to run precise routes in relation to all the other receivers and needs to make sure his mistaken routes aren't running defenders into another area, etc.

DC and scheme familiarity? With whom, Philly? Because he never played a down in Schwartz's previously.

AJ's broad number is way off. She is a 10+!

50 attempts and 400 plus yards is a damned good YPA; one of the most telling components of passer rating.

This has always been true. It's almost surprising the amount of CBs over the years that were good at one and not the other. I can count on one hand the CBs that were/are just as adept at either. Another point regarding scheme fit for McD's zone schemes, is his preference for taller, longer players which was another factor in making Darby expendable. Zone is much more challenging to play than man; just a lot more moving parts.

He did have some great moments in Pettine’s 3-4 schemes in ‘13.

Fair points, all.

Housley makes me ill when listening to him. I miss Lindy in that regard. And for crissakes, will he PLEASE stop putting slow slugs like Okposo on Jack’s wing? I had hoped he would put BOTH Bailey AND Baptiste on his lines, but no. And what does he do when he DOES demote Okposo like he did last night? That’s right, he puts an even SLOWER player on his wing in the form of Pominville! Our lack of speed was really exposed last night against a far better skating team, AGAIN! Oh, and Bealieu has got to go, too. He is clueless.

Lol! Wait until 4merper4mer gets on his case for being a glove wearing Nancy. Or is it Mary?

He’s just not a good zone corner and was a poor scheme fit as a result. Especially in McD’s zone schemes, where so much is done post snap.

That’s all well and good, but building teams is not a linear process. Ever. Can’t say “gotta get this in place first, get that in place first” and then draft your QB like it’s a plug and play scenario. If you don’t have a QB and have a chance to get one, you do it and worry about the rest later.

If I’m the Giants, I draft my successor to Manning and not worry about the most important position in sports for the next 10 years after he retires.

Assessed value by local governments for tax purposes and appraised value are completely different animals.

Rising tide floats all ships.

I've considered both possibilities, especially the Browns, who would be crazy to risk their QB of the future. As to the Giants, while I personally think they're nuts on passing up the opportunity to draft their QB for 10 years after Manning retires, they don't have a ton of picks, their roster needs upgrades and in a deep draft, we are uniquely positioned for them to acquire of ton of picks in this draft. And the Giants wouldn't make a trade with the Jest if their lives depended on it, so that avenue was never available to them.

Athletically, he was like those guys coming out. But that's where the comparisons ended as he was a lazy, immature head case with a severe drinking problem. The entire scouting community was well aware of his reluctance to study as well as his personal issues. Cleveland's owner vetoed the advice of his scouting and coaching staffs when that selection was made.

I want my QB to be the smartest guy in the room. Doesn't mean he can't be a ball buster, though. But football isn't exactly quantum physics, so a QB doesn't need to be a genius to succeed, anyway. Kelly and Marino were hardly keen intellects, but they new how to read a safety.