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That remodeled kitchen sure looks nice attached to that shanty.

In fairness, aren't you assuming the same about any other position player you take instead of a QB? Is it any more of a guarantee that 1st round OL, LB, WR, etc., is going to pan out?

DOOMED!!!

The most NFL ready QB in a good draft for QBs will not last until 12. Will. Not. Happen.

There were reports that JBot had discussions with teams about ROR leading up to the trade deadline. My dream scenario is that we trade him, free up that cap space and use it to sign Tavares. Yeah, I know, I know...

There will ALWAYS be holes to fill on a roster. Always. All of those holes COMBINED however, will not equal the depth of the hole at QB. If you don't have a QB, you don't have anything. We simply can't afford to keep kicking the can down the road if there's a good chance of being able to acquire that guy. And we have a very good chance this year in this draft.

How does it stack up vs. the OLines of the glory years? It doesn't. Four Pro Bowlers and a fifth in John Davis who deserved it as well. Those glory year OLines were among the best lines in history. They made the KGun possible.

Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark.

We need a QB. We need a G. Hmm. Which one, which one do I try to secure first?

Benny and the Jets.

Lonnie "Friggen" Johnson! Ah, the memories. If anyone has the time, they should break down the "success/failure" rates for every GM. You'll find little disparity as it's remarkably consistent from GM to GM, team to team over the years. A few outliers every now and then, but still not enough to move the needle much.

LaVerne Torczan. Ron McDole

Jimmy G.

EVERY QB that ever played has been dependent on his surrounding personnel. Every. One. It is just that elemental.

Regarding that Garoppolo comparison, I hope Rudolph is better at holding a football. "Laces down, Jimmy!"

I agree. He is tailor-made for the offenses those teams run and he'd get into a sit and learn situation with all of them. Personally, I don't want my rookie QB to have that kind of pressure unless he's an Andrew Luck ready coming out and, other than Rosen, I don't see one in this draft.

I don't necessarily disagree and I didn't post what I did as an endorsement. Just thought it was interesting what some in the scouting community had to say. Personally, I think Rudolph is already a better prospect coming out. But like you said, it means little until we see a prospect transition to the next level.

As some may or may not know, I've been friends with a few NFL scouts for years now. One of them retired a couple years ago but he still stays in touch with the guys out in the field. He says the community is comparing Rudolph to Garoppolo coming out and that a couple years learning in a pro system is all he needs. Thought that was interesting enough to share.

Skewers to both of my eyes would have been preferable than having laid them on this thread. Some things just can’t be unseen. When will the horror end!

A series of fortunate events.

Took over arguably the worst team in the NFL, turned them around and got to 11-5 before Modell ruined that team and moved to Baltimore. Look, Belichick, like all coaches, would be the first to say it’s a player’s league and always has been and how fortunate he was to get Brady, but to say he isn’t a good coach otherwise is just not true. He’s a great football mind and always has been.

Are you just going to fully dismiss his career before becoming a head coach? If so, fine. But you’re willfully ignorant in doing so.

There wasn't ONE SCOUT or GM or ANY OTHER Pro Personnel professional who thought Leaf was a better QB prospect. Not one. That was a media driven narrative proffered by the talking head pundits with magazines and draft guides to sell. Yes, there were a lot of people who thought Leaf was a better prospect, but nobody in the league did.

The Miami hate of the nineties was a love-fest compared to the Miami hate of the 70s. Not beating a team for an entire decade does that to a fan and leaves an indelible mark. As such, I will never hate a team more than I hate the Dolphins. It's literally impossible.

I felt it move.