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Not getting carried away in the least. Davis was fantastic between Hull and Ballard and deserved the same kind of recognition. He seldom needed help which made Hull's job that much easier. And nobody is canonizing anyone. That line was simply one of the top lines in history over the course of several seasons in both the running game and pass protection. None of our OLines since have come close to that kind of proficiency in both disciplines. I'll just agree to disagree that our OLine has been just as good over the last decade. But I'm sure the Vlad Ducasses of the bunch appreciate the tip of the hat. And Jim Richter would be exactly what he was if he never played in a SB; a damned good LG who garnered Pro Bowl recognition.

This is an interesting concept. There certainly is a consensus that Rosen is the most NFL-ready QB coming out so is it a prospect's ceiling (potential) that makes him the best? Hard to quantify future projections.

Gretzky's junior team, too.

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If only building a team were a linear process where you start with A, end in Z, and B through Y are all there in successive order year after year. I'd rather give up next year's 1st rather than our 2nd this year. Know value vs. unknown value.

That remodeled kitchen sure looks nice attached to that shanty.

In fairness, aren't you assuming the same about any other position player you take instead of a QB? Is it any more of a guarantee that 1st round OL, LB, WR, etc., is going to pan out?

DOOMED!!!

The most NFL ready QB in a good draft for QBs will not last until 12. Will. Not. Happen.

There were reports that JBot had discussions with teams about ROR leading up to the trade deadline. My dream scenario is that we trade him, free up that cap space and use it to sign Tavares. Yeah, I know, I know...

There will ALWAYS be holes to fill on a roster. Always. All of those holes COMBINED however, will not equal the depth of the hole at QB. If you don't have a QB, you don't have anything. We simply can't afford to keep kicking the can down the road if there's a good chance of being able to acquire that guy. And we have a very good chance this year in this draft.

How does it stack up vs. the OLines of the glory years? It doesn't. Four Pro Bowlers and a fifth in John Davis who deserved it as well. Those glory year OLines were among the best lines in history. They made the KGun possible.

Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark.

We need a QB. We need a G. Hmm. Which one, which one do I try to secure first?

Benny and the Jets.

Lonnie "Friggen" Johnson! Ah, the memories. If anyone has the time, they should break down the "success/failure" rates for every GM. You'll find little disparity as it's remarkably consistent from GM to GM, team to team over the years. A few outliers every now and then, but still not enough to move the needle much.

LaVerne Torczan. Ron McDole

Jimmy G.

EVERY QB that ever played has been dependent on his surrounding personnel. Every. One. It is just that elemental.

Regarding that Garoppolo comparison, I hope Rudolph is better at holding a football. "Laces down, Jimmy!"

I agree. He is tailor-made for the offenses those teams run and he'd get into a sit and learn situation with all of them. Personally, I don't want my rookie QB to have that kind of pressure unless he's an Andrew Luck ready coming out and, other than Rosen, I don't see one in this draft.

I don't necessarily disagree and I didn't post what I did as an endorsement. Just thought it was interesting what some in the scouting community had to say. Personally, I think Rudolph is already a better prospect coming out. But like you said, it means little until we see a prospect transition to the next level.

As some may or may not know, I've been friends with a few NFL scouts for years now. One of them retired a couple years ago but he still stays in touch with the guys out in the field. He says the community is comparing Rudolph to Garoppolo coming out and that a couple years learning in a pro system is all he needs. Thought that was interesting enough to share.

Skewers to both of my eyes would have been preferable than having laid them on this thread. Some things just can’t be unseen. When will the horror end!

A series of fortunate events.