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Too many to mention, but one of the single most funny scenes, one where people in the theater were reduced to tears from laughing so hard, was the rhino birth scene in "Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls." Ironic that it came in such a stupid movie, too.

Yes, the price is high. But not as high as not securing the single most important position in sports for years to come.

It’s worth noting that Kelly fell to 14 because of questions surrounding his surgically repaired shoulder; some doctors were convinced his career was in jeopardy after that operation. Is there a chance a top prospect falls to 12. Yes. Is it likely given the number of teams ahead of 12 that need QBs? No. Sometimes you have to do what it takes to ensure you can get an elite prospect.

Kelly was a “filler” or “retread” QB? What does this mean?

It's bottomless until you fill it with a QB that can put the franchise on his shoulders for the next 10-15 years. If McCarron is that guy, great but there has been ABSOLUTELY NO indication that he is or even can be at this point. Great college career but not enough to get him qualified as a blue chip, elite talent at the position. Point is, if you don't have a QB, it doesn't matter how many other holes you fill.

Still not a first pairing among the entire group.

Another "too many other holes" thread? Once again: add up the entire depth of all those other holes on the team. How deep is it? The answer is it doesn't matter because the hole at QB is bottomless.

Ah, good point. I wasn't thinking in terms of the racial polarization he caused at the time of his verdict. I stand corrected.

I don't think OJ ever caused polarization among the fans. When he played and up until the murders, everybody loved him. After his trial, everybody hated him. Consensus hero to consensus villain. While it's true those are polar opposite extremes, he never caused polarization among fans in terms of our opinions about him.

He's got a point about the Browns. EVERY scouting report on him highlighted his lack of good study habits in college. EVERY. ONE. It was common knowledge and the Browns were certainly aware and chose to ignore that red flag. That is on them. It's not Manziel's fault they chose him anyway.

Been watching hockey since 1970. Your comparison between Ristolainan and Hartnell is what's clueless here. A simple comparison of their respective PIMs per game over the course of their careers tells the story. Hartnell's hit on Antipin was as unnecessary as it gets because it was so late. I find your "less than one second" argument ridiculous as well, especially given it was a routine puck reversal and Hartnell never bothered going in the direction of the puck. But that one second is an eternity in hockey, anyway. I'll be glad to talk hockey any time. But tossing crap isn't talking hockey. When you offer a thoughtful analysis, I'll be glad to chime in. In the meantime, you're right about wasting our time.

Hockey eternity. That is for anyone with a modicum of hockey awareness which, admittedly Hartnell has in short supply. Bizzare take? That’s rich coming from someone who equates Ristolainen’s reputation with Hartnell’s. Aw, what’s wrong? Did Risto not make nice-nice with Kadri?

I’m not saying he deliberately tried to hurt a player; I’m saying his totally reckless and unnecessary hit resulted in the injury and it could have been avoided. It was not a close play in the least; puck was long gone; a hockey eternity. Plenty of time to consider your actions. And given Hartnell’s reputation, he gets no benefit of the doubt.

Spare me the false equivalence between Ristolainen and Hartnell. As an informed fan, you know better. Risto has never come close to that, nor does he have that reputation. There’s a difference between being being pesky and hard to play against (Kadri) and a cheap shot artist. And in in real time, Hartnell had PLENTY of time to make a better decision. His own coach wonders why he’s so stupid.

Well done, Gunner. Not surprised that Rosen would be at the top. He's been the clubhouse leader since the college season started. That doesn't mean he'll be the first QB taken, just that the consensus among the scouting community hasn't changed. He's the most pro ready prospect available. That simple.

Yeah, he lacked awareness that a cheap, totally unnecessary hit was coming well after he got rid of the puck. The only player lacking awareness on that play was Hartnell. But that's nothing new with that bastard.

Brad Marchand bio pic?

Thanks for the clarification. Now that I know they balanced it out like that, it was actually a good idea.

TNT should be ashamed for trotting out this team of play by play and color announcers. Total Michigan homers. A color guy who says "we" has no place on a national telecast.

Yes, and Levy's new deal in '91 put him in the upper echelon of coaching salaries at the time. Look, I don't want to rehash every single nuance of Ralph's spending here. But the Sullivans of the world need to understand that they need to include the exceptions to their narrative when it comes to Mr. Wilson being "cheap" when there are several examples of him making some of his coaches and players among the highest paid in the league for their positions.

Might take some digging. Do you recall that the Steelers were also after Rauch as well at the time and would have hired him over Knoll if he didn't sign with Buffalo? Mr. Wilson had to pay him to get him here and I believe only Shula and Ewbank made more as AFL coaches at the time. Rauch's winning percentage was staggering, after all. I thought Saban II, Knox, and Levy II were common knowledge in terms of their top 5 salaries. I'll see what I can find, though.

Talent restricting? Inadvertent employment? Misers in Cincy and Cleveland? Sound like selective reasoning to underscore a point. Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and Kansas City used cash to cap accounting methodology, regardless. Ironically, that's essentially what the last CBA forces all teams to do given the cap floors mandated. But that's another discussion.

Glad you're so easily amused. Not surprised you'd find an uninformed hit piece by Sully so entertaining. Unless a team his hiring a NAME coach, then he is going to enter the league at or near the median salary. That's how it's always been, with very few exceptions. That's why references to years past is relevant today. And for crissakes, NOBODY said Mr. Wilson spared no expense or that he wasn't tight with a budget. But there were plenty of times when he operated outside of that budget as well. And I think that's worth noting in contrast to idiots like Sully who wish to leave the reader with the impression that he NEVER loosened the purse strings. If you don't, fine.

That was when he was newly hired. He was the 2nd highest paid coach in the league when he signed his second deal. "Demonstrated results." Would you say that the Steeler's cash to cap accounting methodology killed any chance of them being winners? How about Green Bay and Kansas City?

I'm guessing it's the realization none of those future draft picks means anything if we don't have a great QB, anyway.