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Not saying he isn't going to be effective eventually, but I have concerns about him working from under center initially. He's just never done it. And it takes time to master.

Yes, the draft is deeper in "non impact" positions, but that doesn't matter when it comes to rating players. I'll leave it at that. Like you said, this draft is all about QBs . And that will force other positions to drop, which is just one reason why #22 this year is more valuable than a non-rated future #1 pick next year. And many of us agree with you as we've been saying for months that the cap space created for next year affords us the ability to sign players to fill holes, at both impact and non impact positions. And that is going to make it far easier to deal with the loss of a first round pick next year if it comes to that.

Omar Kelly, Super Genius!

My preference is for a player that can step in and play right away if not needing a shorter time on the bench learning the ropes. Lot to like about Mayfield, especially his "compete" to coin a phrase from Ted Nolan, but he's going to need some time before he's ready, imo. Not saying I wouldn't like getting him but I'd be hoping McCarron can be an effective bridge longer than I'd like.

Not according to the people I talk to. But just to be clear, I'm not advocating they keep 22 at the expense of going up and getting their QB. It would be stupid to make that a show stopper; that's the reason we acquired the extra pick to begin with. But if a team is willing to take next year's 1 instead of 22 this year (and I doubt there is), then we should do that.

What makes it less valuable is that there are no assigned ratings, no grades on any of next year's college prospects at this point in time. This is considered a fairly deep draft, especially where the top 75 players are concerned. And because of the number of QBs pegged to go in the first round, great talent at other positions is going to fall. That just can't be said for next year's draft.

That's why I think next year's 1 might be in play. #22 this year is a better known quantity at this point in a fairly deep draft and is more valuable for that reason. It may be difficult to get a trading partner that doesn't think the same thing at this point, though.

This level of satire will go unappreciated by those other good people, I'm sure.

Three OLmen testifying to Rosen's leadership qualities and his merits as a teammate. Three guys responsible for his protection on the field. I take their recommendation above any others.

Agreed. It would be nice to stick it to the league, be in the playoff race, secure a January home game, and sell it out with a bunch of loud, maniacal fans going crazy in bad weather.

With better supporting casts, yes. They have enough talent. Bortles is simply lacking, imo.

Bortles yes, the other two, no.

I hear ya, but I don’t think it matters one bit to the Pegulas.

I think he was referring to the Jets whose owner was appointed ambassador to the U.K. by trump.

We don't get to determine what how many "options" there are at QB in this draft. What the talking head pundits spew is just not worth hanging your hat on. It all depends on the grades assigned by Beane and Co. and whether or not they think a player is worth shooting for and for all we know, they may only think one QB is worth the investment. As to history being relevant, it simply isn't. Every draft, every player, every team, every circumstance is unique. All of those previous failures failed for EVERY other reason than being drafted where they were drafted. But I can get anecdotal evidence to say whatever I want, too. Point is, if Beane and Co. are afraid to pull the trigger on their convictions, they have no business being in the positions they're in. What's that old saying, "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take?" Something like that.

Interesting that he would make this declaration before finalizing his draft board.

Again, some interesting things to think about. The recent Wentz and Goff trade ups notwithstanding (and those two certainly are proving to be worth the trade ups), it is relatively rare for teams to trade up for franchise QBs as most teams are unwilling to trade down from the opportunity to get one themselves. And as for history again, while interesting, it is also totally irrelevant to these prospects, in this draft, with these teams. Every draft and the players and teams involved has its own unique dynamics at play. QBs that busted in past drafts simply have no bearing on anything.

Cold day on the set.

Complete lack of the awareness and empathy gene. That and he's a !@#$ idiot.

Pay no attention to the "reports." Like Buddy always said, "We are all trying to rob the same train." I agree there's a "chance" they'll have options in that 7-12 range, but that's all it is. We don't know what grades they've assigned and how their board stacks up. If they've identified a prospect that clearly stands apart from the rest, and I suspect they have at this point, then they should do what it takes to get in a position to land him, which means getting in front of the Jets at a minimum. Especially since we will retain enough picks to conduct a traditional draft with picks remaining in each round (except 7 IIRC).

Much of this makes sense, but we have to also consider the market demand for QBs in any given year as well. In a cooler market, the odds of landing a blue chipper in the 7-12 range are far better than the chances of getting on in that range in a hot market. There is an unusual amount of demand for QBs at the top of the draft this year. So much so, the Jets secured their place at the table well in advance.

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Yep.

Poker face.

Fracking' QB? That goes to show how much of a meddler TPegs really is.