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Lot of these guys aren’t too fond of our new QBs, either.

Which is why I won’t be surprised if we see Allen from the get go.

That kind of goes to my point about defenses exploiting what they know you can’t or haven’t shown you can do. So no, I don’t see out patterns, especially of the longer variety, being a staple of this offense with Peterman at the helm. He can get the ball out qucickly on a variety of other, less risky patterns. I see lots of three step drops and the ball is out. Gonna be a crowded middle with the safeties cheating up a lot, so it’s gonna be a challenge for him to exploit short middle areas.

I think he’s forced to use his offense in ways that minimize exposure of a poor O line. We know what that is for the most part; ball out quickly, misdirection, screens, etc., avoiding long down and distance situations and using a lot of max protect when we can’t. I just hope we can run the ball against the stacked boxes I think we’re gonna see a lot of. It ain’t so much what opponents know you can do, it’s what they know you can’t do that they exploit. I also suspect Daboll is a fan of mixing up the tempo a lot.

Simple question: what was closer to the truth; two first round picks as the cost or no way a GM deals multiple firsts? If you need to demand me being 100% accurate in a prediction of events I have no control over, so be it. That’s impossible. But the simle fact is, you saw fit to call me out before the fact, I was a helluva lot closer than you or anyone else who predeicted no team would offer multiple firsts after the fact, and you can’t seem to own that in an intellectually honest fashion. I had my suspicions when you refused to quantify the value of Mack vs. future first round picks by passing it off as not having to “quantify the obvious” and this exchange confirms it; it’s a waste of time to engage in honest discussion with those too disingenuous to do so.

The old adage says the team that gets the best player wins the trade. Right now, that’s the Bears, hands down. If and when one of the picks acquired by Oakland ends up being better than Mack, then we can say the Raiders won the trade. The odds are against it, though.

Any relation to friggin Lonnie?

A few posts later, I said the minimum would be two firsts. “Not even close” is what you and others predicted by declaring that the rookie contract structures now in place make them so valuable to GMs that no team was going to part with multiple firsts. No. Team. If you’re gonna flex your internet muscles and dare someone to come back to a thread to defend their predictions when the event finally transpires, you should be prepared to offer a bit more than the weak sauce you threw out.

Better question, now that the Raiders traded him, is what do you think? Looks like the Raiders quantified the obvious. As did the Bears.

Why wasn’t Bennett listed as one of those players traded for multiple ones? Because he hadn’t played in the league yet?

It is the perfect compliment to a light maiorana di prisco!

Should have let Carl Nassib handle his money instead.

Is he asked about it constantly? By whom? Anyway, no, I don’t think it bothers him; I think it motivates him if anything. Yes, he still throws highly interceptable balls. Yes, QBs need to play within themselves and their abilities. And no, short memories are also required. QBs can’t let a bad play, series, or game impact their next play. They have no chance if they do.

I’m not naive about it at all as I know you’re right about the media, etc.. I just couldn’t care less what the media or casual fans use to define a player’s career. All that matters to me is how he gets off the mat and responds to the adversity. So far, so good in that regard. Other players may have been crushed completely after that. He seems to have used it to motivate himself. That’s a nice trait for a QB to possess.

Never live it down in whose mind? Peterman has already let it go; certainly not an albatross as far as he goes. And that’s all that matters. I’m sure he could give two schits if anyone else can’t let it go.

Coleman seems to lack an aptitude for the game.

This will be the philosophy of Daboll's offense. Chunk plays have their place, but they are most effectively set up by a series of chain moving, smaller gains for first downs that keep drives alive and the defense on the field. Chunk plays occur most often when defenses get frustrated and start cheating up on the shorter routes. I also think Daboll will utilize tempo changes very frequently, especially when he gets favorable matchups.

Why is that cliche talk vs. a legitimate concern? No QB has ever been sacked more in a season that Carr was in his rookie season. The beating he took negatively impacted his development moving forward. I would argue that the high number of sacks taken over the course of his first four years ruined any chance he had at establishing himself as the pocket passer he was drafted to be. He was a skittish wreck half the time. And for good reason.

I'd rather see Allen, but Peterman has had an entire year of NFL experience, which is comprised of more than just the games he played. He's had a year of meetings, learning defenses, and breaking down opponents' schemes. That's invaluable. You raise a great point about McCarron as he's very familiar with the Ravens given his experience in Cinci. But, given our sieve-like OL, I think the premium is on that QB that can get the ball out faster than anyone else. Right now, that's Peterman for better or worse.

I don’t think you can have development without trying to win.

I agree we have many holes to fill. None of them more glaring than our lack of an elite edge rusher who can manufacture pressure on his own. We will have to use an early pick to find that guy anyway, assuming he’s even there when it’s our turn to pick in the first place. And even then we’d be drafting a prospect who hasn’t proved anything at the next level, let alone been named All Pro at multiple positions and defensive MVP. Other than on a blue chip QB (which we already have, ostensibly), I can’t think of a better use of “draft capital.”

Still a genius move by the Pats***. That's all you can say.

Would have made it a one possession game.

Um, that's the line that played the first half.