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Sorry, but you've seemed to have contradicted yourself there.
Assuming you meant 2006 and not 1996...JP Losman had the worst offensive line in the NFL. Remember that Gandy, Preston and Pennington were actually in our starting lineup. Also, Peerless Price was our starting #2 receiver. In 2006, Dick Jauron and Steve Fairchild gave JP Losman the chance to make chicken salad from chicken sh*t and lo and behold Losman actually did it!
In 2007, fresh from getting their "workhorse" RB in Marshawn Lynch, Dickie had the BRILLIANT idea to pull in the reigns and just hammer the opponents with Lynch. It failed miserably. It was an abomination of epic proportions to me. They were dumb, they were dull, they went down in flames to the tune of the 30th ranking in offense.
Jauron did have a player and OC who made chicken sh*t into chicken salad. I think that Fairchild was just doing Jauron's bidding in 2007. Jauron is the reason why we sucked so bad on offense last year. Not JP, not Trent...it was Jauron's balless coaching style after getting Marshawn Lynch in the draft. This guy is great a catching passes, but did have plays to get the QBs tossing passes to him??????? Of course he didn't. Jauron's a jackass.
Give me a friggin' break. Yeah, after JP's breakout year in '06 Jauron decided to tigthen the reigns on the offense and go conservative because he had an untested rookie RB to take the load off. That makes ZERO sense and that is NOT what happened in '07. Not by a long stretch. ESPECIALLY when JP was in there. It made SENSE to be a bit more conservative when the untested ROOKIE was in at QB and they were. I'll give you that. That was SMART coaching.
The simple truth of the matter is that defenses made it a point to take away the long ball and JP had a miserable time adjusting to that. Evans was CONSISTENTLY taken away, couldn't find ways to beat double teams regularly, and JP is not good at finding his checkdowns. But boy, he can throw that long ball. Better to force it than play smart.
No contradiction in my post at all. Where were the complaints about Fairchild in '06? JP was the 11th rated passer in '06 so all was just fine. EVERYONE was anxious to see JP BUILD on '06 and it didn't happen so Fairchild forgot how to coach and Jauron, after seeing JP light it up a bit in '06, all of a sudden didn't trust him to do it again. But go ahead and fault everyone else BUT the person most responsible.
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Highly unlikely the Bills have him rated that high to begin with. But let's just SAY they did, ok? I'd have NO problem with them taking him as the best player. NONE. What if Elway, Manning, Kelly, were on the board at 11?
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Levy had no idea about offense either..He had great players..Great players make great coaches..Except for Belicheat..LOL
Absofriggenlutely! And while you say 'except' for Belicheat I say 'including' Belicheat. Was he any less of a coach in Cleveland or his 1st couple years in NE? Did he suddenly 'remember' how to be a good coach? Funny, but when he got good players, especially the one he lucked out on, he became another genius.
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Yes, but he had a guy named Marchibroda who had been around the coaching block a time or two and he knew how to get the most from those great players. Jauron had a chance to hire a new OC this past off season. Maybe Turk will be a good one, but of all the people Jauron could have hired, will he be the best? If you looked at all possible candidates, would another coach conclude the Turk is the best OC out there? Looks like a path of least resistence hire to me.
Taking nothing away from Marchibroda, but the best thing he did to "get the most out of those great players" was get the hell out of the way and give Jimbo the keys to the car.
Is anyone under any illusion that Schonert has 'great' players to work with? Anyone? Your suggestion that Jauron could have hired someone better is a very safe way of saying "if our offense sucks as bad as it did under Fairchild then Jauron was stupid for hiring Schonert" 20/20 predictions we'll just have to wait and see about.
The fact is we DON'T have nearly as many talented players on this offense as Marchibroda did. Let's compare, shall we:
QB: HOFamer vs. 2nd year 3rd rd pick.
RB: HOFamer vs. 2nd year 1st rd pick.
WR: 1 HOFamer, another that will be, and one of the fastest to ever play the position vs. 1st rd pick with potential and two
slot receivers.
TE: One we named an entire offense after vs. Royal?
OL: 4 Pro-bowlers (and one more than should have been in Davis) vs. one Pro-bowler.
Hmm. Yeah, if only Jauron had gotten somebody good he could make chicken salad or this chicken sh*t.
You know, it's funny but I've YET to read ANY complaints about how bad Fairchild was during JP's 'breakout' year in '96.
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We already have a bubble to practice in that is heated in cooled, it is our multi-million dollar field house. The team rarely practices outside in inclemant weather.
Nor should they. It's all about getting quality practices and working on execution. Can't do that in windy conditions. Snow and rain are ok but if it's windy you have to practice indoors.
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There has been alot of talk about the Bills playing a December game against Miami indoors and how that is huge disadvantage (and unfair to fans), however, I do not think the Bills are the cold weather force we think they are. In cold weather games last year we played no better (or worse) than our opponents.
If you look at our December schedule of 2007: 12/2 at Washington - the weather was pleasant for football and we won thanks largly to Gibbs not knowing the rules, 12/16 at Clevland- the weather was VERY unforgiving and we could not even muster a point, 12/23 New York at home - we looked cold and lost (however they were the better team), and our last game of the season at Philli - our cold weather skills were no advantage.
Additionally, our quarterback (and back-up quarterback) and running back are from the west coast and have not looked comfortable in winter weather and the entire team practices in a temp. controlled field house (for the most part).
As I see it from a competition standpoint we have little advantage playing outdoors. I would actually argue the opposite. Playing outdoors in winter more than other teams increases the risks of injury to our players and increases fatigue to our players over the long haul.
We have beat the dolphins that last couple of years becuase we have been the BETTER TEAM, not becuase of the weather. That said, I beleive that the Bills are good enough that even if they played both games this year in Miami they would still handidly beat the Dolphins twice.
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense for Buffalo to build a new dome stadium (maybe in the city) and maybe, just maybe, it will keep y favorite football team where they belong. It definatly would make December games much easier to sell out than they have been in recent years past. As a lifelong fan, I have been to many, many December games and as fun as it is to talk about the elements of the game and how tough I was as a fan, I was cold and miserable (even whern in a heated seat) at many of those games and would have much perferred a tempature controlled staduim.
I welcome your comments.
You hit the nail on the head. We beat teams in cold weather because we had better players. That simple. The rest of the cold weather advantage is a myth for the most part.
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What's so surprising to me is how sure so many folks on this board are sure that Trent is the answer and that JP will never be a good QB in this league. Both of these premises are a long way from being determined.
The premise of JP becoming a good QB in this league is FAR FAR more determined than Edwards'.
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This does NOTHING to change B'more's draft plans. They still have Kyle Boller as the starter. C'mon, people.
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This is news to anyone? We have got to have the most naive fan base in the league.
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Or:
"We're not quite sold on Lee as a true #1 WR in this league. Sure, nobody runs the fly better and his routes and hands are exceptional, but since the Houston game in '06, teams have made it a point NOT to let Lee beat them deep and he has trouble beating double teams; something top receivers just HAVE to do in this league. Lee doesn't seem to like the middle of the field and his blocking leaves a LOT to be desired. He's often out of position on running plays which has caused him to get called for holding on several occasions, negating big plays and killng drives. Our receivers MUST excel at run blocking, especially late in the year. Let's see how Lee responds in this new offense and how he develops a chemistry with Trent before we commit #1 wide receiver dollars to a player that may or may not want to be here."
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Actually, I'd say that play calling is a huge component of any 1st down offense. An offense that is self-limiting on 1st and 10 is a moribund offense.
Couldn't agree more. I would hope that 1st down playcalling this year includes the option for a QB to call a different play if he sees something he likes better from the defense. There was VERY little of that as far as I could tell last year.
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Since there are a number of people who arent completely sold on Trent as a legit NFL QB, I simply want to know what are your own personal expectations of Trent Edwards for this upcoming season. No excuses, no ifs, no ands, no buts. I dont want to put win expectations on him, because so much depends on the rest of the team, and i'd like to avoid stats like sacks, because a lot of that depends on blocking. I just want to know what passing numbers you would like to see from Trent at the end of the 2008 season that would make you satisfied and or happy with his progress. Also, feel free to note any minimum benchmarks that you feel he *must* reach. I'm also going under the assumption that trent plays the entire season.
For me, i'm expecting a season of around 62% completion, 3200 yds, 19 TD, and 14 INTs. That would be a good season by my standards. If he can hit those benchmarks, i will have a lot of confidence in him heading into 2009. Anything better than that is gravy. My minimum benchmarks that i feel he must reach this season are (again, this is projecting across 16 starts) are 2500 yds, 60% completion, 17 TDs, and 16 INTs. If he cant reach those numbers, i will have some serious reservations about his future.
I'm once again struck by the seeming contradiction in one of your posts. You don't want any excuses and you correctly indicate that sacks have to do with blocking (they have to do with several other factors as well, but I digress). But you seem to hold his pure passing stats as having to be excuse free when the success of the passing game ALSO requires the proper execution of all assigments so I don't know how you can imply that his passing stats are all on Edwards. Maybe I'm reading too much into that statement?
As for your question: ANY completion percentage approaching 60% or above is fine. ANY TD/INT ratio of 3/1 is outstanding, I don't care about the actual numbers. The BIGGEST stats for me aren't the ones that show up to the casual observer. I want to see MANAGEABLE down & distance situations on 2nd and third. QB has the most to do with that. Of course that leads to more 1st down conversions and more opportunities. TE accomplishes that and we will be in position to win more often than not, at least from an offensive perspective.
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This guy has great instincts and great ball skills, does not have elite speed but is great when he has the play in front of him and that is what our defense is all about......what do you guys think about drafting him in the 3rd......sounds good to me!
That's what our defense is about oh, roughly 25% of the time. Not sure he's the guy I want the other 75% of the time considering our first goal has to be to beat NE to win the division and since they use the spread exclusively we are NEVER in the cover-2 against them. See how easy it is to take a team out of it's preferred coverage schemes? We all saw what they did to use last year.
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Done. The only thing I found, as I suspected, that might even be close to an answer to my question is that you stated that the history of misuse of religion usually is politically motivated. So, I suppose we could say that the best lesson from history is: go after the political premises that spawn the misuse of religion.
But that's about it. I still don't see how every time religion is misused somehow there is a political agenda behind it. In fact, there are many cases where politics have had nothing to do with it. So perhaps we can agree that in this case, politics is the driving factor and so we need a political solution, as opposed to a anti-religious one?
And, if you don't want to play anymore fine, I guess I'll go back to work.
In ALL theocracies religion IS politics. Past or present.
It is no coincidence that the radical Islamic movement was and continues to be fomented in theocracies that carry the most geopolitical sway as the entire world's economy is based on the resources these theocracies control. These radical leaders, especially Bin Laden and others like him, seek POLITICAL influence they can't otherwise generate without the mass recruitment of those willing to toe a certain party line.
That's why the solution will eventually be a POLITICAL one.
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they key to running a little amount of plays is making sure you aren't predictable, and last years offence was the definition of predictability. more talent, and less predictability will make this offence alot better, and from what Turk has said earlier this offseason, he seems to understand it.
I agree it's one of the keys. But the most important key is talented players as everyone knows. With talented players, smart as well, you can virtually tell the opposing team what play you're going to run and they're STILL unable to stop it. While that may sound farfetched to some, it's really not. That's what superior personnel means.
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Two points:
1.) Regarding his 'measureables', his performance in all categories may be directly linked to the quad tear. He's run much better in the past if reports of his times from last year are true. Why would he, his agent, or medical personnel LET him perform if he wasn't 100%? Don't know why. But if medical personnel from a team interested in drafting him deems that the injury WILL heal completely then he's less of a physical risk and his 'measureables' will improve accordingly.
2.) Regarding his temper tantrum. Has he shown this tendency in the past? If he has then that's revealing and a far more important issue. If he hasn't, then I can at least understand his frustration and anger even if it was the entirely wrong thing to do. Kids do entirely wrong things all the time. But I ask how a kid would feel KNOWING that his performance, good or bad, would mean the difference of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Think about that. Like I said, it was immature to get demonstrably angry in front of potential employers but my bet is that if his attitude hasn't been an issue in the past then teams will overlook this in light of the tremendous stakes. If I'm a potential employer I ask him how is he going to go about making up for it in the future? There's one answer I want to hear: "I'm gonna bust my ass to be the best receiver in the draft and prove all the doubters wrong. I'm gonna EARN that next contract on the field!"
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It's fairly obvious that DJ and the coaching staff wants a big physical receiver - which we do need - but our real need is a new offense. I really hope Turk comes in with a fresh look on the 'O' and we run more than 10-15 of the same plays a game. And I'm sick of listening to DJ talk about being conservative, running the ball, "we did some good things today, but didnt score as much as we'd like" B.S. Yes, a big reciever will help take pressure off of Lee - but we still need to get the ball more to Roscoe, Marshawn, and Lee in the open field. Throw Freddie in that mix too. With hopefully an upgraded and healthy defense, we shouldnt have to focus on keeping them off the field as much by going run, run, 5 yard bootleg pass to a TE as much.
I appreciate your comments but it's not about the number of different plays a team runs. It's about running the plays they DO run correctly. That takes better players. I agree it would be nice to get the ball more to our key skill players in the open field and they tried that last year. But it's FAR easier said than done because EVERY D they faced saw the Bills had only a couple bonafide threats and they took them away EASILY. Why? Mostly because there was NOBODY else to command respect in the areas of the field that would have opened up other areas for Evans, Roscoe, et al. That's why we need that legitimate threat at #2 WR and TE. To open up spaces. Until then, expect defenses to do EXACTLY as they did last year and dare us to beat their stacked fronts and man-over coverages. Especially with a 2nd year QB and RB.
I've been accused of making this up in the past, but it's true: In their SB years, when Jimbo ran the K-gun and called his own plays, the Bills only ran 6-8 different plays in a game. They did it from various formations of course, but their superiour personnel, especially on the OL, allowed them to keep it simple. For those that refuse to believe that, ask Jim or Tasker yourselves.
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I seem to remember a medical concern around a certain RB we picked in the second round after every other team passed on him.
Based on his college career (the BEST barometer of a player), the fact he's run much better 40 times prior to being hurt, and STILL was considered to have a pretty good pro-day in other areas (like, oh, running routes and CATCHING the ball), I think there's a good chance we take him in the 2nd IF our medical staff deems his injury as one that will heal completely and not nag him the entire year.
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Now the Koran is a playbook?
Let me tell you, The Bible has been one hell of a playbook for some horrific crimes against humanity throughout the ages.
Stoning, anyone?
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... Unless there's a great DE talent on the board, they've isolated themselves into taking a WR.
How, exactly? I didn't know it was possible for a team to "isolate" itself into taking ANY position before a draft. How does that work?
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Which is really the fundamental part of my argument: It is not the religion that is causing terrorism in the first place, it is the religion that is being used by terrorist leaders as a justification and a tool to accomplish their ends (as has happened all throughout history).
This is a response to an earlier in-space post but it's pertinent to your post as well.
Of course that's true but it can be a hard sell to some. You'd think the math would be enough to convince people; there are over 1 billion Muslims in the world. If they were all hell bent on destruction of the non-believing masses you'd have carnage everywhere.
As to an earlier post about the religion causing terrorism or "something else." That's an important question for us and people all around the world. The vast majority of these Muslim terrorists are disaffected young men living in monarchies, dictatorships, or some other form of non-democratic government. Most live in countries with very high unemployment and little hope in the way of economic opportunities. Many live in vastly rich countries with huge disparities in how the wealth from those resources is distributed. Many also have lived entire lives in areas destroyed by routine terrorist acts and the reprisals for those acts. Compounding this is instant access to mass media messages and images.
Is it any wonder at all that these are the people targeted by these radical clerics? Is it a surprise that their message would APPEAL to this type of individual? That they could be so willing to embrace the message? Not if history is any indication.
It isn't the religion. It's twisting it to enlist those willing to believe the twisted message. In the end it's not about religion at all. It's just politics as usual.
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I don't know what "having a true leader" has to do with anything. The biggest difference between the 3 largest religions is two of them no longer have complete control of entire societal infrastructures.
I would add that the third also has complete control of entire societal infrastructures in a small portion of the world that just so happens to contain the highest percentage of known reserves of oil. Upon which the entire world's economy is driven. What does that have to do with anything? Well, it's no coincidence that these radical clerics recruit heavily from these countries as the young male populations in these countries are ripe for the plucking. Huge, huge revenues from their precious resources, yet sky-high unemployment and deplorable living conditions for so many. And they have no say (power) to affect change in these non-democratic governments. The radical clerics have an easy sell in this environment.
Fortunately, these radical clerics are a drop in the bucket of over 1 billion followers of Islam. Unfortunately it only takes one.
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Simple. Make enough plays to score enough points to win. That's what the good one's do. Use your feet, arm and head to do it.
In other words play the same way you play in warm temperatures.
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When I worked at Dunkirk Ice Cream Lou Sabin would bring his QBs in to practice in the frozen warehouse. After he left, the team moved training camp to Fredonia to be closer to the warehouse. That move to Rochester really messed things up.
I remember those stories. But this idea of not knowing how to play in the cold it ludicrous. If you know how to play in 72 degree weather, you know how to play in cold weather as well. It's a question of acclimation and a few days with some reps outside the field house will suffice just fine. If Edwards loses his job it won't be because he can't play in cold weather.
Wind on the other hand? That's the bigger issue. But I've seen far more strong-armed QBs that Edwards struggle with windy conditions. Especially with the swirling field level winds that you have NO control over in a sudden 35mph gust. Everyone from Namath to Marino to Elway to Kelly has thrown miserably wounded ducks in those conditions.
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VET VS ROOKIE WR FOR 08
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No way in hell! James Lofton was James Lofton BEFORE he came to the Bills. Eddie Kennison is NO James Lofton. Eddied Kennison WOULD NOT have been Lofton even with Kelly and Co.
That said, I AM intrigued by your suggestion. If his hammy is ok (and that's a HUGE concern at his age), I'd have no problem with it since he was still productive in '06. Wouldn't hurt to take a look at least.
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