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Ask me again after his 31st NFL start.
Until then, I expect he'll play like I've suspected from the beginning: lots of good plays, a few bad ones, and a couple that will absolutely kill us at the wrong time.
I'm FAR FAR more concerned about a defense that allows a drive of 8:41, after seizing the momentum and once again puts the offense in a bad position.
Trent has certainly screwed the pooch the last few games at various times but I'll continue to place most of the onus on a defense defense that can't get off the field often enough to give the offense more opportunities.
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Randy Moss had more talent then any WR to ever play the game, if he had the desire to match he'd have broken every receiving record.
Can't argue that at all. Size, speed, quickness, leaping ability, great hands, excellent route runner, and could have been an ALL Pro return man if used that way as well. From a physical standpoint, I don't recall anyone having as much as Moss at WR. But that 10 cent heart gets in the way far too often.
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If the universally accepted principle that special teams is considered a truly important aspect on ANY team means anything at all, as touted over the years by HCs around the league as well as the advent of designating special teams coaches dedicated only to that highly touted aspect, then Tasker should be in the HOF on that basis alone.
Otherwise it's all bullsh*t lip-service and/or the writers on the voting committe don't understand what these coaches have been saying all these years.
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This is not a politically correct exercise with panning and pawing about 'measured response.'
In my purview, when it comes to any QB, but especially Chadwick, a hit is a hit. As stated, and as historically proven with CP, you need to hit him to get him off his game.
I really don't care where it comes or who it comes from or if it's legal or not. They put him anywhere but behind an OL, they'd better be ready for any consequences that come. You may call hitting 'the p---y way', I call it football. It's called sending a message that the nancy sh-- stops NOW, and we're gonna roll right over you on the way to next week. We lack fire and grit; we try to do things with finesse and scheme rather than a punch to the mouth --- we haven't seen that kind of Buffalo spirit since Sam Gash and Spielman/Paup. We also haven't seen the playoffs since those days. Coincidence?
We need to start knocking people on their asses and stop apologizing for making people's bodies hurt.
Ok, Mr. Hayes!
How should we do it when he's lined up at WR? Would a nice two-armed chuck at the LOS suffice? Or, if he IS in the act of blocking, should we just concentrate on letting the defender, whoever that is, forget about ball pursuit and just knock the piss out of him? What's the correct way of shedding the dreaded CP block? Should the defender, whoever that is, do it the usual way or do we cook up something special because it's the QB out there blocking? Who lines up across from him when they are in their Wing-T? An LB? A DL? A SS? Tell me, which tackler do we take away from the pursuit of a FAR FAR more explosive offensive weapon in the form of Ronnie Brown or Ricky Williams to devote to teaching CP a lesson?
Knocking him on his ass when he's trying to throw the ball goes a HELL of a lot farther than a shot at him while he's not involved in a play run out of a Wing-T formation.
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The reason we lost, even though we played horribly, was turnovers, plain and simple. We had the same amount of 1st downs, more rushing yards, the same amount of stupid penalties, one more 3rd down conversion, but 3 MORE TO'S. That's the reason we lost right there. You can't win if you have 3 more turnovers then your oppenent. The biggest of which was Trent extending on 3rd and 1. We were moving the ball on them easily and were poised to score. You duck you head on that play and try to move the pile. If it was 4th and inches on the next play, I would have suspected we go for it, because we were on their side of the field.
Buffalo Mia
1st Downs 19 19
Total Yards 339 358
Passing 220 306
Rushing 119 52
Penalties 7-64 7-51
3rd Down Conversions 4-14 3-11
4th Down Conversions 0-0 0-0
Turnovers 4 1
Possession 28:48 31:12
Pretty much got it in a nutshell. If anyone were so inclined to look at every game ever played (Lori?) I'm quite sure we'd be shocked, but not surprised, that the team losing the turnover battle loses the game far, far more than half the time.
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I agree 100% with this comment, it's spot on!
It amazes me that the JP haters hate just to hate and have no clue as to the main reason or care to know why JP has struggled. All they can muster is JP sucks, can't process info, holds the ball too long, bad passes, sacks, turnovers, etc. but no real understanding as to why he is like that, and that just shows the lack of football knowledge of many many fans.
Trent did look very JP like yesterday and all anyone can place blame on is the rest of the team. It's truly amazing what kind of football experts the internet has created!
Go you narrow minded tards ahead flame away!!!
Do you see the irony in the bolded part of your post?
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I will continue to preach that one of the main reasons for the loss was not putting any heat on a QB with a long history of getting rattled and folding when you hit him.
Such a hit is not done for that play. It's done for every play that comes after it.
I wouldn't mind taking a couple of 15-yarders when it means that Chadwick's va-jay-jay is hurting and he doesn't want to be out on the field the rest of the day.
You mean like getting concussed or getting free shots like on that pass to Evans?
Here's a news flash. Other teams already take liberties on our QB. Time we put notice that we'll do the same damn thing.
Are you suggesting that a legal hit while in the pocket is the same as hitting the QB split wide when he doesn't have the ball?
I'm all for giving notice to the other team as well. But let's do it while rushing the passer instead of the p*ssy way.
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Now when the Dolphins go on the road to play the Bills this year... Will they face a cold December afternoon suffering in the wind and snow.... NOOOOOO.... They'll be warm and cozy in a dome in friggin Canada.... Thanks Ralph... Great idea....
And our offense will benefit as well.
The cold weather for Miami factor has always been overstated. Since their inception, they've had to play 3 road games a year in the northeast. Many of those on (very) cold weather days.
As I said, our offense will benefit more in the dome than Miami's would suffer playing in the cold.
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One of the knocks on Desmond Howard was that he couldn't fight off the jam. Given Parrish's stature, I'd be surprised if he didn't suffer from the same problem. If you can't fight through it, you're pretty much dead to rights on a pass play.
Yep. Especially when he's split wide and the defense can use the sideline as an extra defender. He simply cannot beat jams often enough to be a reliable option set wide. As for slot, he's a natural and he would do better if the Bills motioned him more to free him from jam coverages.
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I'm 50 friggin years old and I'm cranky. On a good day I'm slightly less cranky than cincy. You expect me to be able to remember my degree of crankyness from the 90's? All you're going to do is increase my crankyness to obsecene levels!
Well, let's see...in 90 I had a 2 year old so I was cranky about his crankyness.
In 92 my wife was pregnant. Do I need to go further?
In 93 I was dealing with a 1 year old. Bottles/diapers/throw up. Makes me cranky just thinking about it.
I'm feelin' ya. I'd take a thrashing from the Phins any day over a pregnant wife, a terrible two year old, and poopy diapers and puke on my Bills shirt. Anyday. LMAO!
Ironic how your crankiness brings so much laughter to the rest of us. Stay pissed, Beerball.
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You take liberties with the opposing team's QB you can expect liberties will be taken with yours.
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We lost to a less talented team because as you say, we were outplayed and outcoached. We might have been able to overcome one of those, but not both.
Crappy coaching.
Crappy offense.
Crappy defense.
The fact that it happened against our first divisional foe of the year makes it worse. I gotta admit, I'm feeling extra cranky today.
Are you more cranky today than you were the day after the above-mentioned losses to Miami in '90, '92, and '93?
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Some scores from previous Phins games:
9/16/90 @ Miami: Phins 30, Bills 7.
10/4/92 @ Buffalo: Phins 37, Bills 10
9/26/93 @ Buffalo: Phins 22, Bills 13
Marve used to trot out a great saying every now and then. "Act like you've been there."
After reading many of the posts in response to the loss yesterday, it's obvious many of our fans just haven't "been there" before. All this gnashing of teeth and the need to find "the reason" we lost is pathetic.
We were outplayed, outcoached, and made too many turnovers. That's all that needs to be said. Just an overall crappy game. Still, we were up 16-7 with 25 minutes to play. Hmm.
Instead of going all apoplectic why not just give Miami some credit, especially Pennington. Anyone think BEFORE the game that if we held the Phins to 50 some odd yards rushing that they would stand a chance to win? Hats off to Pennington. Hard as that may be for some it will make it easier to deal with.
Losses like this define teams far more than wins. It's all about how they respond to it. I choose to believe this will be one of those blessings in disguise games. And I say that believing we'll beat the Jests and lose to NE the following week. Losses like this serve to galvanize teams. Especially teams with talent and character, which the Bills have in enough key areas while waiting for it to develop in others.
5-2 with 9 games left.
We've been there before folks.
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Actually, this loss proves several things.
First, as much as I hate New England, Buffalo just loss the division title today. Trust me, Buffalo is playing for a wild card spot now. Buffalo has struggled the last several years against division opponents, and if Buffalo even ties New England for the division, Buffalo has to have a better division record.
This loss also proves that Buffalo needs desperate help on their offensive and defensive line. First round pick and second round pick should be spent on a center and a solid pass rusher. And, Buffalo should go out and pick up another DE to replace either Denney or Bryan for depth.
The third thing this loss proves is that Buffalo is a good but not upper echleon team yet. Like many Bills fans, I got too excited. Buffalo is still a 9-7 or 10-6 team with a legit shot at the wild card but nothing more.
Watch NFL football much?
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Thats because Schobel's 67 career sacks are all either coverage sacks or in garbage time. [/tards]
Good post, simon.
About time you admitted we've had one of the best secondaries in the game ever since Schobel was drafted.
I won't even bother to mention how conveniently you forget about all those big leads our D has played with since Schobel arrived. Our O has put so much pressure on other teams to come from behind and throw more that Schobel was bound to benefit from some garbage time sacks.
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In light of the multiple threads ragging on Schobel (like the nonsensical trash we endured last year) I thought I'd put this out there:
3-8-BUF17 (:41) J.Russell pass incomplete deep left to J.Walker [A.Schobel].
2-10-OAK20 (10:18) J.Russell pass incomplete deep right to A.Lelie [A.Schobel].
3-2-OAK44 (10:23) M.Bush right guard to OAK 43 for -1 yards (A.Schobel).
1-10-50 (4:12) M.Bush left guard to 50 for no gain (A.Schobel)
2-10-50 (3:29) J.Griffith up the middle to 50 for no gain (A.Schobel)
2-9-OAK17 (7:17) M.Bush left tackle to OAK 16 for -1 yards (A.Schobel).
Also thought I'd mention that according to NFL.com Schobel led the team yesterday in both Tackles for Loss and Quarterback Hits.
And here's a link showing Schobel tied for #6 in the NFL in solo tackles by DE's.
Shouldn't you stick to your expertise on secondary play?
Kidding of course. But it's frustrating that our supposedly knowledgeable fan base wouldn't know a good game from a DE if it slapped 'em in the head. Let alone an entire season. Like last year, which was one of his best considering the injuries and the changes made to our D schemes as a result.
Maybe Bruce has just spoiled our expectations for DEs but I'd take a team of Schobels any day of the week.
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The sad part is, Bruce has to say those things in order to get respect. Whenever I see the top 10 DE's ever, Bruce is no where near first on the list. There's always Deacon Jones, Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, and so on. Bruce is usually down near 4, 5, or 6. IMO, Bruce should be in the top 2.
LT was a DE? Who knew?
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Yeah, I think he had even more playing time yesterday than previous. Josh Reed's career-year performance so far has helped to bring the rookie along slowly. The Bills keep introducing new wrinkles every game and there's more in store.
Believe!
Good point re introducing new wrinkles each week. Much like certain plays are used to set up other plays in games, schemes are often used by coaches to set up others for use later on against other opponents. Get ready for more spread formations and no huddle later on.
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Get used to it.
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I have assessed the following:
-at the 3:32 mark of the 3rd quarter, I noticed that Kyle Williams was scratching his leg.....as a result of this I have come to the following conclusion(s):
--he has a serious injury that he is hiding
--there may have been a mosquito that got beneath his leggings (possible west nile virus????)
--he was giving signals to his fellow defenders on a play
--this was a signal to one of his friends from college
--any thoughts????
Leggings? LEGGINGS!!
Football players don't wear leggings!
Well, maybe Brady. But that's it.
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In the zillions of threads we debated,I was only trying to make the same point Dean made in post #46. I'm glad Dean finally got through to you what my point was. I'm not saying Trent can't learn to play in bad weather, but he needs to.
Well, Fl, I'm sorry to disappoint you again, but Dean didn't get your point through to me at all. Other than the part where Dean agrees with you that he's yet to see TE play well in bad weather (whatever that is), your posts on the matter couldn't be more disparate. Were you REALLY trying to make the same point as Dean? You flat out said that Edwards LOST the Giants/Browns games last year becaue he couldn't play in bad weather. That's a far cry from what Dean said. I won't mention the other stuff you came up with to bolster your point (i.e. P Manning playing that SB in as bad weather conditions as TE has ever played in). Suffice to say that while you are fretting about his ability to play in bad weather (whatever that is), I am not.
As I've said countless times, far better QBs than Edwards have looked terrible at the Ralph on certain bad weather days. Even our own Jim Kelly. Sometimes you just can't pass the ball at the Ralph. That simple. Doesn't matter if you 'know' how to play in bad weather or not, the elements can render the passing and kicking games useless. Seen it too many times.
Lets just agree to disagree and hope Trent continues to develop. Just don't pull your hair out when he flat out has a crap day in beautiful weather (which is bound to happen), too.
Peace.
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Agree with both of you...and don't forget that he went to see Lee in the off-season and spent a few days throwing to him, even wearing that JP Losman mask to make Evans feel more comfortable.
Ok, well maybe not the part about the mask...
And just where did Edwards meet with Lee Evans? That's right. A place all sunny and warm with PERFECT weather. If Edwards was really serious about being a good QB, he'd have insisted on practicing with Evans in Antarctica.
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I agree that Edwards was slightly outplayed in each of these games.
But is it me, or do the numbers not reflect the point you're trying to make? In what world is 9/24, 137 yards drastically better than 13/33, 124 yards? And the fact that the Bills were outrushed in both games only furthers the idea that Edwards played as well as those guys, because he had a lesser running game backing him.
The same goes for the numbers in the Giants game. Since when is 7/15, 134 yards, 0 TDs and 2 INTs, soooo much better than 9/26, 161 yards, 2 TDs and 3 INTs?
It seems to me all four performances were pretty close to each other (in other words, equally lousy). Edwards may have been slightly outplayed, but I could never say from those numbers Eli and Anderson played well, and Edwards played poorly. Those numbers put them close enough that you'd have to group all four performances together.
Then again, its not all in the numbers. Just playing devil's advocate to this particular post.
The sarcasm button was cleary ON when I made that post to Gordio. My post is more in response to a certain poster who clearly thinks Edwards can't play in bad weather, says Peyton Manning won a SB playing in weather as bad as ANY that Edwards has played in, and points to the Giants/Browns games of last year as clear examples of how badly Edwards was outplayed in bad weather by the opposing teams' QBs. It's been an ongoing debate in zillions of threads with the same poster.
Here's something for all the other "TE can't play in bad weather" fans to consider: it's far more important that we can RUN the damn ball and STOP the damn run in bad weather than pass in it. While that's painfully obvious to anyone who has a clue it's lost on many. Especially to those who point to the Giants/Browns games of last year. The rushing totals tell the entire story.
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Maybe I missed it, but was the point ever that Trent lost the game? Certainly wasn't my point.
Of course not, Dean. It was clearly someone else's point in the thread. And perhaps thousands of other threads as well. My response was not to any of your posts/thoughts on the matter.
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in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I want them to stop the Jets when they absolutely f*cking have to, that's what more I want! Giving up a drive of 8:41 that ended up making it a two score game is inexcusable. Sure the offense sucked, especially Edwards, but the fact is it was a 6 point game with over 10 minutes left to play.
Our offense has lost some games, but our defense sure as hell hasn't done anything to win one.
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