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...Edwards shows up and practices. Don't you think that the coaches, the 53 players, all with varying experiences having seen team mates with residual effects of a bell rung, would speak up?...
That's what I'm questioning. Is he PRACTICING like he played on Monday night? I'd love to know the answer to that. My gut tells me, no. And that he's not showing anything in practice to indicate to the staff that he's not game ready. And I include the huge amount of weekly classroom time as well. If his cognitive abilities have been diminished they would show up there as noticeably, if not more so, than anywhere else. If he HAS shown decreased cognition then either a) the staff is too stupid to recognize it or b) they are ignoring it. If either a or b apply, the Bills have far bigger problems than we thought.
Based upon my own observations, it appears Trent has the NFL QB equivalent of the yips. He has lost his self-confidence. It's only a matter of time before he loses the confidence of his teammates and coaches as well. Some golfers, great ones even, were never able to overcome the yips. I'm hoping Van Pelt and Schonert can provide him some insight on the matter from the perspective of having been there themselves.
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Hey - I think he's right. The owner is a problem. Granted, I appreciate him, but he's a meddler. I mean, how do you fire Polian and run Butler out of town? Isn't that obvious?
Agree on Polian but he didn't run Butler out of town, exactly. Butler made a LOT of bad personnel decisions in his tenure as GM and left the team in cap hell to boot. Butler made it clear to Ralph he didn't want to come back.
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We learned more than anything that both defenses leave a lot to be desired and can be exploited if you take care of the ball.
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Hey K9 since you called me out and disappeared when I asked if you couldnt pick 10 players you would rather have manning that position vs Schobel. I can't compile rankings for all 64 ends in the league but here are 18 players I would feel more comfortable playing the position instead of Schobel, no particular order. Just my opinion but the basis for why I put Schobel in the top twenty. I didnt put much effort into compiling this list and could probably add a few more. Heck I would probably add Joey Porter there as well.
John Abraham
Julius Peppers
DeMarcus Ware
Dewayne White
Aaron Kampman
Mario Williams
Dwight Freeney
Jared Allen
Justin Tuck
Osi Umenyiora
Shaun Ellis
Kalimba Edwards
Aaron Smith
Shaun Phillips
Justin Smith
Patrick Kerney
Chris Long
Kyle Vanden Bosch
Not a bad list to be sure. But the only guys I would take before Schobel, given what I know about the schemes they play predominately are Peppers, Ware, Williams, Freeney, Kerney, and MAYBE Aaron Smith.
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"He's one of the best DEs in the game."
Seeing as there are 64 starting de's in the league and he might rank in the top 20 I guess this is true.
I'll wait for you to come up with the criteria for ranking defensive ends. All 64 of them. Of course I expect these rankings to take into consideration every scheme each plays the majority of the time as well as the proper context of the schemes and other positional responsibilities withing those same contexts.
Thanks in advance for the difficult task of amassing this data.
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Absolutely! What convinced me more than anything was how the DLine responsibilities were changed due to all the injuries last year and he responded with arguably his best overall season. As evidenced by the enormous respect afforded him by his peers in the player/coaching ranks.
These igmos who suggest that all he does is rush 10 yards straight upfield have absolutely NO knowledge of the schemes and context of the various positional responsibilities. He's one of the best DEs in the game.
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Holy crap! It's one thing to lose Reed. But Royal? How will we EVER compensate for his loss?
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I actually looked this up, and the record is held by Clod Tollins (Todd Collins)If I recall (not looking it up here)....95 yarder to Quinn Early? Maybe a different WR...I just remember Todd heaving it from his endzone, the WR catching it near midfield and the defender(s) falling down. The absolute peak of the Clod Era.
Cigars to both of you! Well done. Easy to forget Clod Tollins.
On the bright side, I'm just happy I can even remember Frank Lewis.
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I think he has the longest td throw.
My memory may be fuzzy, but I think the record is held by Joe Ferguson. Fergy to Frank Lewis at Miami in 1978 for 92 yards. Lori?
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Really? The Bills don't owe me or anyone else a damn thing huh? I guess those seats at the Ralph are free and the numerous jerseys, hats, caps, and shirts I wear were hung off a rack that said "Please help yourself"....
strange...could have sworn I paid for them.....
Really. If you don't believe me, take them to court and see how you make out. I'd be interested to see what grounds you bring but I'm sure one of those lawyers on the billboards around Buffalo can come up with something. I mean, it's obvious you've been injured so starting with an injury attorney might be a good place to begin.
Obviously, I'm being facetious. Everyone knows that every ticket and piece of merchandise bought comes with a guarantee from the Bills that says they will win the SB every year in exchange for your patronage.
Enjoy the games. Rest easy in knowing how good you look in that beautiful Bills garb and good luck with your law suit.
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You are right. The Bills organization has given us much to be positive about the last three weeks. As well, they deserve the benefit of the doubt with the last decade of success they've given us. We fans are selfish and greedy. Like our New England counterparts.
As a paying fan, you are obviously free to be selfish, greedy, pissed, pouty, whatever. That's your right.
It's also your choice.
The Bills don't owe you a damn thing, regardless of how you choose to feel about them.
Carry on.
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TSW will be its usual schizo self. When we're 8-4 AND having made up ground in the division by virtue of the NE/NYJ/MIA head-to-heads, the bandwagoners will be back in droves.
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...In the 4th quarter of the New England game, Lynch got the ball three times and he turned that into 20 yards. Then Turk started calling passing plays and never went back to the run. How many yards can a running back gain if the QB never gave him the ball? Maybe Lynch should tackle Edwards after the snap and rip the ball away from him, then run down field with it. I think that is what you expect him to do.
If you're gonna start talking about the 4th quarter against NE, I suggest you start with the defense. First three quarters, gripe all you want, and rightfully so, but Sunday's 4th quarter is all on the defense.
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Ok, so we we lost a few against some key opponents. We get to play all of those teams again and they will be expecting to beat us again, advantage Bills. The beauty of this is we are looking at playing 3 bad teams in a row to right the ship, then it's back to spank Miami. Living in the past good or bad gets you stuck there. We had almost every news agency saying we're the greatest team to start the season and now we're nothing? Fame is fleeting and so is fanship here for some.
Let's stop the DOOMED threads and we'll never be good threads, please.
Ah, the unbridled passion of the eternally optimistic. I truly wish you well in your quest, Quixote.
But for the pouting to stop a collective infusion of football knowledge would have to be received by the IGMOS (thanks again, Hogboy).
Better to fight those windmills my friend.
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... Fairchild played to JP's strengths in 2006 and to his weaknesses in 2007 and also eliminated the ability to audible out of bad plays...
Why would Fairchild DELIBERATELY sabotage the incumbent starting QB?
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At least Trent holds ONE significant all time team record for a game in his first 1 1/2 years. Can JP say the same over the course of his first 4 plus seasons?
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Cheap Trick
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What's that saying Murra? People in retard glass houses shouldn't throw stones?
Majorettes line up on the left, Heels. Interested in dotting that "I", aren't you?
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Oh, you continued your ironic analogy in your comeback. I wasn't expecting that.
/sarcasm
I'd expect a retort like that from a tuba player, not a baton twirler.
But, my! What a dashing figure you are during the halftime show!
I'm just f*kin with ya.
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Was that a memo to yourself?
No, why? Was that a reminder that you're late for band practice?
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Listen, Dick Jauron isn't exactly the cream of the coaching crop, but lets not compare him to Marv Levy or anyone like that. Buffalo is in a slump right now. Bottom line, if we don't come out of the next 3 games at 8-4, we don't deserve to get to the playoffs and Dick Jauron may make some B.S. decisions, but the talent on this team isn't executing either. Its the WHOLE teams fault that they're playing poorly, not just one guys.
I completely agree. Pretty simple really. Why people choose to stress over it doesn't make sense. We will either be good enough or not. And yes, Jauron WILL make bad decisions, Edwards WILL play like the sometimes confused 2nd year QB that he is, and even our BEST players will not execute from time to time. There is nothing that our less talented players, forced to play due to injury, can really rely on BUT proper execution and they WILL screw the pooch at some time or another as well. The trick is to limit the number of times all this happens at the SAME TIME.
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Trent Edwards is a better QB than JP plain and simple. He manages the game better, makes better decisions and has shown that he can bring the team back in tough situations. That being said, he has struggled as of late and no one is arguing that fact.
This is his first season as a true starter and he is still learning. Peyton, Elway, Aikman, Cutler, heck most every big name QB in the game has struggled in their first season or two. JP had plenty of chances and he didn't take advantage of them. JP's biggest challenge is his inability to overcome tough odds and make something happen. If you are a "gunslinger" and don't have the ability to lead your team in the toughest of times, you are the worst kind of gunslinger. That Cardinals game was proof of that...it just took me back to the frustration of his previous seasons. I understand he came in as a backup, but leaders are born out of adversity and he didn't show an ability to rise above his circumstances.
No doubt Trent has made some bad plays and had costly turnovers. But you get the sense at least with him that he is going to learn from those things and move forward. Three times this year already he has lead his team back from tough deficits. It's going to take time for him to be a truly complete QB. Without a consistently solid D and problems on both lines, those challenges are amplified. The fact of the matter is that we had chances in all three division games and had bad turnovers or defensive breakdowns. At least we were in those games. I'll take that any day over having to worry about JP stalling yet another drive.
This team has bigger issues than the QB play. Trent has the skills and mentality to rise above those issues and make this team better. That streak starts on Monday against the Browns.
-BBF
I agree with what you say except this absurd notion that JP is a 'gunslinger.' That is a complete myth. There's a huge difference between being able to throw a ball 60 yards in the air on a deep sideline route (he has trouble throwing deep to the middle areas) and being a gun slinger like say, Favre. Gunslingers stay calm and take crazy chances when things break down around them. They're NEVER timid. JP has had the 'deer in the headlights' look far too many times. He tends to play tight when things break down. Gunslingers NEVER play tight. For reasons you illuminate above, JP can never be considered a gunslinger.
But he's a downright fricken' Jesse James with a push broom.
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Players.
Schemes.
Coaches.
In that order. For very particular reasons which would be lost on the multitudes of IGMOS (thanks Hogboy) that populate our fun little community.
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...this BB would be a f*ckin' marching band!
With NO shortage of candidates to dot the "I" in Ohio.
Get a clue, get a grip, or get lost.
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Today's Mort Chat
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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The cap and teams' abilities to manipulate it today is a different animal than it was 10 years ago. Let me be the first to say that for 99% of his tenure in Buffalo, Butler was one of the best in the league. Especially as a talent evaluator. But his last few years as the Buffalo GM left a lot to be desired. From the RJ trade to the drafting of Flowers to the extension of veterans passed their prime, he helped create a cap mess that needed to be cleaned up. It didn't need to be overstated so Donohue would have an excuse to clean house; it was what it was at the time, a mess.
I agree that Donohue's house cleaning put a burden on the team for '01 and '02 when the bonuses of those released were accelerated. But what was his alternative? Keep the players? With the exception of a couple of DTs that will remain nameless, should he have kept others like Henry Jones who were clearly passed their best days or take the short term hit in the hopes of developing younger, better players at a lower cost? Players that the new coaching staff wanted.
Look, we all know how it worked out and what a travesty the Donohue years were. But his housecleaning was necessary at the time.
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