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Not only that, but we can see that along with shipping manufacturing jobs overseas, illegal immigration is one of the problems that has kept real wages artificially low for the last few decades. And BOTH parties have played a roll in allowing that. Also agree that we need to review legal immigration and make that easier for some.

Good discussion! You bring up some good points, especially rising cost I'll get to in a minute. But first, not sure which charts at BLS your looking at and don't have the time to dig through the mess there :-). But this is what I'm referring to: https://www.statista.com/chart/17679/real-wages-in-the-united-states/ As you can see above, the best we had before now was back late 60s (the blue line) when the average real wage, in 2019 dollars was 23.33. And even up to March this year the trend up has continued: But as you can see, took a hit in April and May. Now, to the cost of living you brought up, I think we are in total agreement that wages have not kept up with the cost of living over the years. Especially in the area of housing. FOr this, use the CPI calculator at BLS you can find here: https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm In that top chart we see that average un-adjusted wages for the mid 70s was about 8 bucks an hour which comes to roughly 16000 a year. But punch that 8 bucks into that CPI calculator and to have the same buying power today would be 37.84 an hour But if you go back to that top chart again, you see the average is only 23.38 now. But now look at this chart for housing, go to the bottom one that show un-adjusted housing cost. https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/census/historic/values.html And we're looking at NY since that is where most of the readers are, and where I had the pleasure of growing up. I used the figures I did on purpose, because that 8 bucks an hour is what my dad made in the steel mills early 70s, he got up to 10 bucks by the mid 70's when he died. The farmhouse I grew up in he bought in the late 60s for 18,000 which at the time was just over what he made in a YEAR. If you look at the chart right above, in NY late 60s early 70s that would have been about right for average home price. For those just reading, that chart, from right to left is 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000.... so its a decade average. The point is, that is how the housing market was for decades. Cost of a home was about average for what the average yearly wage was of the time. But then look all the way to the 2000s and the home average price of 148,700. Even if we use that current average wage of today at 23, that will come out to roughly 46 thousand a year making home costs 3 times what they were. I think THIS is the biggest area affected by the stagnate wages over that period we see above from the 70s to now and maybe a bit extreme, but we could do this with food or clothing too. So then, what caused it, and how do we fix it? Edit to add.... The paycheck to paycheck issue is also an affect of this same issue to an extent, though as Americans we do tend to live UP TO our means.

ARE Americans practicing Communism?

raysis?

Good to see the have a sense of humor....

Let's face it.... This is merely a first step to get all women to wear Burkas....

IF you agree to it, didn't I say that? But the trace has to stop there and not follow someone from their phone book without their permission also. Here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/electronic_surveillance

Twins?

I get it, but contact tracing is a totally different story. Perhaps only the people who agree to it.

Of course it does, because if there isn't a significant increase in Covid deaths in 2 weeks it will be more proof these lockdowns were totally unnecessary.

And here we are once again using an old clip to try and prove systemic racism yet ignore the truly racist crap the Biden's, Kennedy's, Byrd's, Clinton's, and so many other Democrats have been doing right in front of their face for decades. Then even have the audacity to blame Republicans for problems in the cities that have been Democrat now for decades! Yet every single one of the people complaining are going to go to the polls again this November and vote those same people back into office again. Someone remind me again the definition of insanity?

So then, seems we can agree on something maybe. That is that governments in cities with large black populations have worked to keep those same people depressed. And oh, they've all been run by Democrats for decades. Doe this also mean you'll switch and start voting Republican?

Anyone else see the irony as we remove Confederate statues because of racism, and then remove images of Aunt Jemima and the Indian girl from Land O Lakes butter? Wouldn't that be racism too?

Gotta love how some on here are literally butchering the English language in the name of social justice ... smdh

So then, what you're saying is that now anyone who proposes cutting taxes is racist?

Yeah, just like in 2016 huh?

And this ushered in the New California we got to see last year where when fire or high winds threatened areas, instead of risking more lawsuits, they began to just shut the power off in entire areas of the state.

A bit of a stretch in both areas don't you think? First, we have finally under this President, began to see a REAL rise in wages among lower and middle class workers. I say finally, because for decades real wages have been stagnant to say the least. Still work to do, but I'm wondering if you viewed an "oppressed" working class under Obama? Renter/homeowner calamity? Based on what? Certainly not from the Covid crisis since many made more money unemployed than they did working. Of the lower income or disabled/unable to work, they should have kept the same income/assistance from the government throughout the crisis. So I have no idea where you might think this calamity is going to come from.

Talk about misleading headlines? Form the article

Quoting this, as it has now been edited. Is this the quickest "investigation" in history?

Man how sh1t like that pisses me off! I don't give a flying ****, but there is never an excuse for that!

Yup, that video certainly doesn't fit Gator's narrative at all