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Welcome back! I feel bad for you discussing Bills on FB. What a debacle that is

Ok buddy. You’re saying that Bowers and LaPorta aren’t even close to as good as Kincaid. And I’m delusional- I think I’ve been the most outspoken Kincaid fanboy on this forums since we drafted him. He’s very good. He might be as good as those guys. Saying that he’s better and it’s not even close is purely delusional. I don’t think there’s a person on earth that would agree with that- not even his mom

Man- your love has caused you to be delusional. Kincaid is my favorite player not named Allen. “it’s not close” is just poor talent evaluation. I think he’s on Laportas level and slightly behind Bowers.

We should all go over there and defend all of the anti Bills talk- stand up for our team…. And flex how sad our existences are end sarcasm

💯 same with the chiefs the last couple years. They didn’t utilize the slot as much as the pats did but I think Mahomes td passes had an average of something like 2 air yards per pass

I don’t think it’s about playing the song after the game has been decided. It’s meant to get the team and the stadium fired up. The Steelers play renegade in the 4th qtr and the game is rarely already wrapped up when it’s played. It gets the players hyped and could give them more juice.

Lamb is exceptional- he’s right there too. Again- 96%? Nit picking YET- we have the 2nd most efficient offense since 2000 last I had saw) and Shakir had 100 targets- next highest was 75 (Kincaid). Next highest WR is 57. sounds to me like you have a strange opinion of what “worthy” is. In OUR offense- he is 💯 worthy of being WR1. Either that or our offense was just really lucky all season. This is why I say you’re thinking in a box. He may not be worthy of those targets if the offense is predicated on throwing downfield. But for an offense built around 2 yard passes and rac- sign me up

I disagree 💯- that’s fine Huh? This has already kept me up too late- I’ll check you gents in the morning

I’m not selling anything- just stating my opinion. I have my eyes- highlights and stats to back it up but I don’t really care if you buy it. Compare his rac highlights to guys other than chase and hill (and hill may not even be included anymore. He certainly wasn’t last year). Nabers is up there too but I don’t think his arc tape this year was as impressive as Shakir’s.

I watch a lot of reaction videos of opposing teams fans watching Bills game highlights. One reason is to see how people react to Shakir’s highlights. Everyone is on his jock- his wtf moments are top tier. Not many WRs are doing what he’s doing “after the catch”. yes the offense helps him- our blocking is insane- but he routinely bounces off would be tacklers. Combined with his juke set up- he’s a terror. Disagree- fine by me In your opinion it stretched it. If I said 96% would you agree? Meh- nitpicking comment imo.

No man. I watch players run and decide who is great by my eyes. Stats just happened to align with my eyes in this case. Do you not think he’s elite yac? It’s just my opinion achane is a RB. I should’ve mentioned that I’m talking about WRs. That’s what this thread is discussing- WRs. I don’t think he’s in the top 1% of all positions rac

If we’re unlucky enough to lose Brady after one full season (more luck that’s involved in winning super bowls) I think he’d be my first choice to replace him. I think this will bite them in the butt. They should fire the GM for trading for diggs instead of building him an OL.

I mean- I can have my opinion- you can disagree with it. He had more rac yards than everyone in the league except for Chase- he was that guy this year. that’s not made up. That would put him right around top 1% would it not? He’s special with the ball in his hands. I would regard him as an elite rac playmaker. Feel free to disagree

I’ll take Shakir over most of those guys for the plays in which he’s used in Buffalo

You’re thinking in a box. As if the term WR#1 has to be meta X WR. If your first option WR is a top tier RAC athlete and your pass game revolves around short passes that beats teams with RAC all day and has big forceful WRs on the outside to mow down defenders- than that WR is a legit WR1. That WR doesnt have to meet the meta that you seem to be speaking of. He just needs to be able to do what is asked for of him. And we ask more of him than any WR on our team. People that watch him play say- “DAM, you see that? THAT dude is nasty!” It doesn’t matter if he meets the meta. Teams have already won Super Bowls without legit #1 WR Spags

Preaching to the choir my man. I had him as a 2nd rd pick- I wanted him over Cook. He’s on a different level than 99% of the WRs after the catch imo.

He’s not our X. Cooper is our best X and the guy teams have to worry about most on the outside by a mile. But I’m pretty sure he’s 4th in snaps per game since he’s joined the team. I don’t understand how that guy could be our WR1. He’s our best WR. Our pass game revolves around Shakir. I don’t see how he is not the WR1 on this team. It doesn’t matter how many teams he’d be WR1 on. That’s not relevant imo. We’re talking about our offense. And Shakir is the man in the pass game.

He does have a long way to go getting on the same page with 17. They are not on the same wave length imo.

I’m back- go ahead- tell me how many seasons that gronk out targeted Edelman per game from 2013-2018 ill read you’re reply- but I’m still out! Have fun with this

Oh man- this is amazing- guy cites me for cherry picking stats then talks about one year James white leads in targets due to an Edelman injury. I was talking about a 7 year span. Not one season like you. thanks for the laughs though. I’m out You can still delete them!!

You apparently aren’t taking targets per game into the equation- not factoring in Edelman time missed as the reason White led the team Edelman- 9 targets per game White- 7.6 but whatever floats your boat to prove your point

Is it not? When becoming a full time starter in 2013, his 16 game averages: 104 rec, 1132 yards, 6tds. If he had played full 16 game seasons, it puts him at totals of 728 rec, 7924 yards, 42 TDs from 2013-2019. From 2013-2019, those totals would put him 1st among WRs in receptions, 4th in yards, tied for 7th in TDs. Now, lets look at his playoff 16 game averages from 2013-2018: 131 rec, 1645 yards, 3 TDs. Those totals from 2013-2018. would be: 786 rec, 9870 yards, 18 TDs. From 2013-2018, those numbers would place him 1st in receptions, 1st in yards, 55th for TDs. Not to mention, he is 2nd all time postseason receptions and yards, only to Jerry Rice. https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/zMwNkimKtK He wasn’t an X (and neither was Gronk) but he was a focal point of the offense- looking at those numbers- Gronk was the superior talent- but Edelman was a focal point- I don’t think they had one focal point.

Pretty much every second that I’m not working, sleeping or having sex. Meh- make that working and sleeping. I may think about Josh Allen when I’m having sex. jk

Edelman out targeted gronk every season by a fair amount. what’s a #1 WR? some say it an X that plays outside and get lots of targets able to beat man coverage on the reg. neither Edelman nor Gronk were that. If a team has neither, I’d have to say the #1 was the guy that got the most targets. That was Edelman. Doesn’t hurt that he’s an actual WR and not a TE- but that’s not my reasoning. Having multiple guys that a defense has to focus on rather than one guy that can be doubled and taken out of the game plan. It may be difficult to amass the talent capable of this if you don’t have the proper QB- but we do, so I’m not sweating it. The progressions are similar to my favorite Guru (Gangstarr) lyrics- “ex girl to the next girl”.

Because people have different tastes in music like you have different tastes in QBs. John Skelton anyone? just messing with ya bud. Haven’t seen you post in awhile- hope all is well with you!