B-Man

Apparently it bears repeating

Everyone who wants to comment on today has to watch this entire tape and hopefully realize that at approximately the 38 minute mark President Zelensky asks a question of Vice President Vance which isn’t really a question. (My guess is that someone gave President Zelensky really terrible advice to not fight with President Trump in public but that he could score on the VP because the VP couldn’t respond. Wrong.) President Trump had been almost indulgent of President Zelensky for 38 minutes, trying to get to the post-presser meeting with a path forward to a ceasefire intact, aware that he has to deal with Putin afterwards as well. A couple of times President Zelensky dances on the cliff (especially with the pictures which someone who doesn’t know this business told him would be an excellent stunt and wasn’t) and President Trump steers it back to a path to the post-presser meeting. But then President Zelensky puts the VP on the spot and it escalated. Then President Zelensky tells President Trump how the United States would feel, and you can see our president give into a (justified) rising anger at President Zelensky’s approach and rhetoric, as did the VP. I have long supported Ukraine and still do. President Zelensky’s conduct has been heroic. But he is used to President Biden, Secretary Blinken and NSA Sullivan who did not have a plan or a purpose other than “de-escalation” which they assumed would stop escalation from Russia —which did not happen— and for whom every decision was agony. President Zelensky also did not remember that Ukraine didn’t lose the war (that President Biden told Putin would be fine if it was a “minor incursion”) because of weapons President Trump had sent in his first term. I don’t know how this gets back on track. I don’t know if the warrior Zelensky can actually make a deal. Putin has kidnapped tens of thousands of children, murdered thousands of his people and tens of thousands of his soldiers. Putin has committed war crimes. All of that is true. It is also true that Putin has thousands of nukes and NORKs. President Trump has a plan. He wasn’t in charge when Putin invaded Ukraine the first time or the second time. All President Trump can do is try and bring about a stable and enduring peace and get Ukraine enmeshed with Europe and the U.S. while also dealing with Putin. Nixon dealt with the worst murderer of the 20th century when he sat down with Mao. Reality is what it is. Presidents of the United States have to deal with whatever mess their predecessor leaves them. I’ll repeat what I said on the program today: President Zelensky should call all of his strongest supporters w/i the Senate GOP and genuinely seek advice. And dismiss those who have been “advising” him for the past six weeks. Very publicly.

Not really. This was for February Washington crash - 1/29 Philadelphia crash 1/31 .

I think that he might run for Governor of Pennsylvania in 2026.

Spotted this evening at Men's Wearhouse.....

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LOL. If you have to ask, then you will never understand. You are not worth the effort, but just assume that I posted the well known Kamala calling Joe a "racist" during their competing campaigns picture. Okay ?

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TRUTH. AMERICA FIRST.

You're right. When I first watched the argument without the proper context, I thought it was possible that Trump and Vance ambushed Zelensky or were even trying to humiliate him. That's not what happened. You had 40 minutes of calm conversation. Vance made a point that didn't attack Zelensky and wasn't even addressed to him, and Zelensky clearly started the argument. In the first 40 minutes, Zelensky kept trying to go beyond what was negotiated in the deal. When Trump was asked a question, it was always "we'll see." Zelensky made blanket assertions that there would be no negotiating with Putin, and that Russia would pay for the war. When Trump said that it was a tragedy that people on both sides were dying, Zelensky interjected that the Russians were the invaders. For his part, Trump made clear that the US would continue delivering military aid. All Zelensky had to do was remain calm for a few more minutes and they would've signed a deal. The argument started when Trump pointed out that it would be hard to make a deal if you talk about Putin the way Zelensky does. Vance interjects to make the reasonable point that Biden called Putin names and that didn't get us anywhere. The Zelensky/Trump dynamic was calm and stable. It was when Vance spoke that Zelensky started to interrogate him. Throughout the press conference to that point, everyone was making their arguments directly to the audience. Zelensky decided to challenge Vance and ask him hostile questions. He went back to his point that Putin never sticks to ceasefires, once again implying that negotiations are pointless. Why on earth would you do this? Then came the fight we all saw. Zelensky was minutes away from being home free, and he would have had the deal and new commitments from the Trump administration. The point Vance made was directed against Biden and the media, taking them to task for speaking in moralistic terms. This offended Zelensky, and that began the argument. I've been a fan of Zelensky up to this point, but this showed so much incompetence, if not emotional instability, that I don't see how he recovers from this. The relationship with the administration is broken. Ukraine should probably go with new leadership at this point.

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Comments ? NEW: Elon Musk just revealed that the government handed the Navy $12 billion to build new submarines —and not a single submarine was built. When investigators asked where the money went, Navy officials shrugged and said they had no idea. “There’s a case where I think Senator Collins was telling me about how she gave the Navy $12 billion for more submarines, got no extra submarines, and then held a hearing to say where the $12 billion go. “And they were like, we don’t know. That was it. I mean, basically, stuff is so crazy. Only the federal government could get away with this level of waste,” Musk said.

Had been slowly recovering, but apparently has had another bad episode. Continuing prayers for his recovery.

Seeing in Bloomberg law that Acting US Attorney for DC Ed Martin has "demoted" supervisors who oversaw the Jan6 prosecutions. First -- that's the right thing to do based on a long-record of their decision-making on how to handle those cases. Second -- IT IS COMMON IN EACH CHANGE OF CONTROL OF THE WHITE HOUSE to change the supervisors in US Attorneys Offices. Why should Ed Martin rely on the supervisors put in place by Joe Biden's US Attorney. Happened in both Calif and Hawaii when I was an AUSA from Bush to Clinton, then Clinton to Bush, then Bush to Obama. Every supervisor in the office was demoted back to line prosecutors - some resigned -- and other line prosecutors was promoted into supervisor spots. SO -- AGAIN -- don't let the media gaslight you into thinking this anything other than normal.

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