The Jokeman
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Manuwai has stayed injury-free the last 3 years (16 starts in 16 games), and next year will be his 5th year at Guard.
Gurode had stayed injury-free once in his last 5 years (2006).
Kris Deilman isn't in Manuwai's class, IMHO.
Manuwai was at the top of my list before he was re-signed but now with the landscape lesser Deilman's arguably the 2nd best LG available behind Steinbach.
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I really appreciate that info. I think we could definitely land Deilman or Gurode for sure with that type of cash. Gurode would give us great flexibility (C or G) so I'm kind leaning toward him. It will be a vicious bidding war for Steinbach and Davis which is why it's called a "dream offseason"!!!!
What was the deal in Total yrs. and total cash( 5yrs/25M )???I haven't seen any thing that listed his signing bonus so unsure the whole terms of the contract would be. In terms of preference, my first choice be Deilman as think Steinbach be out of our price range and a guy like Holland be a good depth guy to add. I'd then draft someone in the first day of the draft. I'd love Justin Blalock but can't see passing on a guy like Dwayne Jarrett if he's there in the 1st. I could then hope a guy like Josh Beekman falls to Round 2.
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Thanks Jokeman. I guess in order my choices would be Steinbach, Davis, Deilman, Gurode, and maybe Dockery. I'd pass on the rest. I'd be very happy with one of the first 4, PLEASE GET IT DONE MARV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The good thing of Manuwai signing the contract he did we might have an idea on the type of contract it might cost to lure someone to sign here. According to his NFLPA.org profile he's due to get the following base salaries:
2007 1400000.00
2008 1900000.00
2009 2900000.00
2010 2900000.00
2011 2900000.00
In comparison Villarial is set to earn:
2007 1450000.00
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I believe Manuwie of the Faguars has re-upped, so besides Steinbach, who's left? Deilman, Gurode? Anyone worth a crap? I think Gurode can play both center and guard, so I like the possibilities he would bring. We gotta get tougher in the middle folks, who else could help us?????????
I've compiled of a short list of OGs in this thread.
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No way. He came back from his achilles and BLEW UP Brady on the first play of the game, but hurt his hamstring and was out for a couple of months. He needs the offseason to heal up, but he'll be back. Maybe not 100%, but even an 80% Spikes is better than most LBs at 150%. We keep him until training camp and if he sucks, then cut him. I don't think that'll happen though.
You want to go into next season without Fletcher, Clements OR Spikes?!
I'll gladly keep Spikes if he renogiates his contract to help us retain Fletcher or Clements as he's definately not worth the $6 plus million he's expected to count against the cap.
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No, we had harder strength of schedule so the 49ers game had no influence on our position
If GB wins we pick 12th
If GB loses we pick 13th
Go Packers
I outlined some recent picks at #13 in this thread.
In terms of pick 12:
2006: 1 12 Haloti Ngata Ravens DT Oregon
2005: 1 12 Shawne Merriman Chargers LB Maryland
2004: 1 12 Jonathan Vilma Jets LB Miami (FL)
2003: 1 12 Jimmy Kennedy Rams DT Penn State
2002: 1 12 Wendell Bryant Cardinals DT Wisconsin
2001: 1 12 Damione Lewis Rams DT Miami (FL)
Or in other words we might be better of going with a LB then a DT in looking at the percentages.
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Almost five months before the draft, I think they'll probably take a CB. Its always a reasonably safe bet. The number of DBs this team has taken in R1 since 1990 borders upon ridiculous.
I'm in denial and think we're going retain Nate Clements but you're probably right
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With the GB up 23 - 0 at the half it looks like we'll be picking 12th
If we end up picking 12th I'd probably go with Dwayne Jarrett, assuming he comes out.
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make that since mid-season...he is in some kind of slump
Lovie seems to be an old school coach ie as long as he's healthy his QB is Grossman. So, I say he'll start Grossman but if he continues to play this poorly in a playoff game I can't see him not getting the hook.
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On offense I have to go with Lee Evans. This guy defines professionalism from what have heard on his talk show and the way he carries himself on the field. I like him so much that went so far to get a replica jersey of his and I'm not a real jersey type of guy as tis is the first one I ever got for the Bills. Of course I do have one for the Sabres but it's of Michael Peca
On defense I've always like Aaron Schobel and glad to see him finally make a Pro Bowl this year. In terms of rookies I have to go with Kyle Williams. As prior to the draft he was a guy I had a feeling we'd take and was dreading it as thought he was vastly overrated but being we got him in the 5th he's shown to be a good value pick and a capable wave player in this league. -
Which team do you think had the most disappointing season?
I voted for the Steelers. I mean they were the defending Super Bowl champs and failed to make the playoffs. Though IMHO they could had made the playoffs had their coach been smart enough to go with Charlie Batch a little longer while Roethlisberger healed up.
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Answer 5 questions and the NFL will help you pick a team to root for in the playoffs.
It said I should root for the Seahawks based on my answers.
I was given the Eagles when this was fist posted. Though I think I'm going to go for the Saints but to be honest think Baltimore has to be the favorite to win it all unless Lovie decides to go with Brian Griese then the Bears could post a serious challenge.
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as opposed to ed reed, sean taylor, and roy willams, who were impact players from day 1.........given their draft position they are more relevant comparisons.........
and again look at the cast Ed Reed has had in Baltimore. Sean Taylor I'll admit has been great but he is a far better athlete then Whitner. In terms of Roy Williams, he's highly over rated.
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Or did injuries take their toll for Gore?
Gore was starting ahead of McGahee at the U before his injuries. Of course I think the injury McGahee had was more severe then the two Gore had.
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Was the decision by Shanahan to replace Plummer a good move?
For this season definately not but for the long term good of the franchise I'd have to say yes. As Cutler's shown some good things thus far into his very young career.
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It was a safe pick with not enough upside. Not a bad philosophy in an ordinary draft, but this draft was loaded with impact players in round one. Safeties are not that hard to find, big time lineman and QB's are much harder to come by. Whitner is going to be a good player for quite a few years, but it's hard to watch a guy like Ngata come in and turn the Ravens into an impenetrable run defense and then at the same time see Whitner getting run over, kicked in the head, bouncing off ball carriers.... Whitner is good, but he's not in the class of Troy Polomalu or Bob Sanders and I'm sure the Bills must have thought they were getting THAT to draft an undersized SS.
But look at the surrounding cast Ngata has in Baltimore. I think the defense is moving in the right direction from last year all things considered. Now the key is at least keep Clements and either re-sign Fletcher or find a suitable replacement to prevent a step backwards next year. As think if the defense can play as well as it has this year and the offense can improve there's no reason we shouldn't be a playoff team in 2007.
To me my biggest concern today was Coy Wire playing CB instead of McGee in the base defense as also have to ask where's Yobouty and just shows how valuable Nate is going to be. Let's also remember about Sanders and Polamalu made their impact in their 2nd seasons not as rookies.
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Dude, he played poorly himself as well. He missed passes, he held the ball too long a few times.
Like I said in the game thread, Losman had a poor game but IT'S OKAY. Nobody's writing him off or anything. Stop being so sensitive.
Playing poorly is different then playing horrible as the title of this thread eludes. JP had his moments today but showed he's still inexperienced QB. He definately needs to improve but feel some help out there be it some more beef on the O-line, another starting caliber WR (as feel Peerless just a depth guy) and a 3rd down RB or pass catching FB would be welcome additions.
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I think the Gandy move was for the best. He's doing much better, like it or not, at guard than he was being bum-rushed by elite D-Ends.
No one can compare to Peters. Who'dathunk that a Tight End would become a phenomenal NFL tackle?
400th Post. Woo.
Actually Gandy's stats in terms of sacks allowed are worse this year then they were last year from snap stats.com.
In terms of alternatives here's a short list of some free agents Gs and link to their stats:
spot starter at RG Montrae Holland
I personally think getting a guy like Dielman and drafting Justin Blalock with our top pick be a good plan of attack as just see us shelling out the money for Steinbach but have a feeling we might end up with Mahan and maybe draft a guy like Manuel Ramirez in the 3rd instead. I'd also be in favor of also getting a guy like Holland to compete to start and prefer over a guy like Mertz and be an improvement over Preston.
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We are #10 to #13 depending on the tie breaker and what Green Bay does tonight and if SF wins in OT.
#10-13
GB 7-8 (@CHI)
Atl 7-9
BUF 7-9
SF 6-9 (@DEN, OT)
It's actually looking like 13 because of strength of schedule as San Francisco and Green Bay had a weaker one then we did heading into today and were playing weaker teams then the Ravens as well.
In terms of recent history here's who been taken at 13:
2006: 1 13 Kamerion Wimbley Browns LB Florida State
2005: 1 13 Jammal Brown Saints T Oklahoma
2004: 1 13 Lee Evans Bills WR Wisconsin
2003: 1 13 Ty Warren Patriots DT Texas A&M
2002: 1 13 Donte Stallworth Saints WR Tennessee
2001: 1 13 Marcus Stroud Jaguars DT Georgia
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love to see Bills get their hands on the big/tall receiver they desperately need. the current group of smurfs only shine when everything thing goes as perfectly planned. a tall/physical receiver like jarrett with good hands is ALWAYS open. rule of thumb is WRs don't get taken high in the draft so with the bills drafting somewhere near the middle this time, i wonder if anyone knows where jarrett falls. I mean just look at how important the 6'5" 230 rookie WR colston has been for saints this year. i say draft the receiver and build the line through free agency... WRs can have an impact right away and the road is littlered with first round OLine busts (tony mandarich, gallery, our own mike williams, etc etc). anyone see a projection of the 2007 draft? i know it's early but maybe someone like kiper has put something together.
Assuming Calvin Johnson comes out, as well as Jarrett as both are juniors, Dwayne should be the 2nd WR off the board. In looking at recent drafts this is where the 2nd WRs were taken in recent drafts:
Round Pick Player Name Team College2 36 Chad Jackson Patriots Florida
1 7 Troy Williamson Vikings South Carolina
1 7 Roy Williams Lions Texas
1 3 Andre Johnson Texans Miami (FL)
1 19 Ashley Lelie Broncos Hawaii
1 15 Rod Gardner Redskins Clemson
1 8 Plaxico Burress Steelers Michigan State
As evident WRs do get taken early but rarely do they make impacts as rookie. As much as I want Jarrett, he's my alternative choice if don't get Justin Blalock, to expect him to make an impact as a rookie is asking a lot. Either way I think if we end up picking in the 15-17 range as things seem to be going he could out of our reach. Of course we might have a shot at Jeff Samardzija and Dwayne Bowe who also have size with our top pick if miss out on Jarrett. Of course a lot depends on what we do in free agency mainly at LB and CB. I feel if we lose either Fletcher or Clements then our top pick should go to replacing either one with Patrick Willis and Buster Davis at the top of my lists at MLB and Leon Hall, Darrelle Revis, Marcus McCauley and Antoine Cason among the list of CB candidates.
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Any chance the Bears would trade either Thomas Jones or Cedric Benson?
If not Thomas, we could also try and get his brother Julius out of Dallas. Who ironically was picked by the Cowboys with one of the picks we gave up to get Losman. The other was used on TE Sean Ryan, who's now with the Jets.
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Will Ian Scott be a RFA? If so, forget about him.
No, Ian's due to be an UFA and have him at the top of my short list of DTs.
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I don't think the Bills keep both of them. Which one is the better choice to keep? London is older but still playing at a high level. But he has Drew Rosenhaus for an agent. Could Spikes slide inside if Fletcher leaves? That would give us Crowell-Spikes-Ellison at LB. Could we find a suitable replacement for Nate? He's good,but I don't consider him a real shut-down corner. Should the Bills overpay him to stay? If you're Marv which one do you keep?
I could care less who Fletcher's agent is. To me it's obvious you keep Nate, as for one he is younger and a far better player at his position then Fletcher is at is. Not only that but our depth at CB is considerably weaker then it as at LB. I haven't studied free agent LBs in great detail but one name someone else brought up is Kawicka Mitchell. Also the draft has some strong options in either Patrick Willis or Buster Davis if looking for someone in Round 1.
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What do the Bills look for
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Actually he's only a junior but expected to come out early.