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Very true, don’t forget they also only scored 13 points. So ball security will be key for both teams. You do know wins and rain works both ways right? Yes Allen has the arm but his accuracy would be an issue and well I’d say poor weather works worse for the Bills game plan than the Pats who will rely on our line to bully your D line.

I do believe 200 of it was to Lamb, who killed them all game. Also don’t forget the top two WR > Buffalo top 2 WR. Lamb was covered by Mills and well it was a very very long day for Mills.

Allen’s class was a weak class for QB. None was considered good year one, Mayfield had a few good games and Jackson had success but to this day people knock his QB play. But first 2 years the class was probably considered a Bust with Allen and Lamar being the only two ok QBs.

Against the Cowboys, a better D, they scored 29 points AND he rebounded right after throwing a pick 6. also the protection has happened since the last 5-6 games before that he was getting hit hard and often.

He went toe to toe with Dac who had his full compliment of receivers and their D was at full strength. He also went toe to toe with Brady. No he didn’t win but they had the lead with less than a minute to go against Dallas.

Lol 48-45 I don’t think that was on Jones for the loss lol.. talk about no D game lol

Exactly, right now this is the best ANY Pats fan could have hoped for.

Well we do have a rookie QB. I rather he throw it away and get 3 than try squeeze it in and get a pick.

Well right now statistically I think they do have the top D and a GOAT Coach. That said anyone who is a Pats fan doesn’t see this year as a bonus year is just lying. (Bonus as in unexpected and definitely before we expected them be so good.) Bills are the better team will be interesting if the better coaches can make the less talented team win. Again as I said repeatedly I want a good game with no major injuries hurting either team.

Lol I heard “Game Manager” on this site for 20 years with Brady. (No Jones isn’t Brady but you guys love your game manager insult lol) What I don’t get is why people think that’s bad. As a rookie I want my QB be a game manager while he learns anything more is inviting disaster.

Wait did he just say Jones > Allen? Umm No.. better coached? Maybe (talking OC) .. better? NO CHANCE IN HECK! Allen is the better player right now and it’s not close. That doesn’t mean the Bills win just that they have the better QB. It’s not BB who calls the O that’s MacDaniels. Also easier said than done.

What Patriot fan is saying that? I know I am not, as I have said previously I came into this year figuring the Bills win the division and the Pats would be in the playoff race with between 9 to 11 wins. (said this before the season started) Now do I think the Pats can beat the Bills? Yes. Will it be easy? No.. As I stated in this thread I believe any outcome will not shock me especially since both teams have played terrible games (Jags, Texans) and also played at high levels (KC, Dallas)..

I think you mean Bourne not Harry for the second one. Bourne IMO was the best WR FA pickup of the two. I’d say Jones 3 favorite targets are Meyers, Bourne , Henry.

No I am suggesting they didn’t show up for the Jags game, wondering if the Titans had been injury riddled could the same thing have happened against the Titans. Like I said a lot of great teams threw the years have done that.

Very well said. Add in 2 of the losses the Pats have came against SB Favorites and they both came down to the very last minute or OT and the Pats to the talking heads look amazing. Oh and we wish we had faced NO as toothless as you guys just faced them.. I say NO = Cleveland. (Except you didn’t even get their starting Qb lol) question for you if you guys had faced TN back then as weak as we did, do you think there is a chance the Bills don’t show up like they did in that game. In other words play as if they should just win because they shows up? (That’s not an insult I’ve seen a lot good teams do it threw the years)

My point was simple. When your RB actually touch the ball 20 times a game your team appears to win, when they don’t based off the last 4 games your team does not win. I hate QB designed runs, unless you have Jackson who isn’t really a good throwing QB.. running should always be the last resort because it opens them up to injury and harder hits. Yes that MY OPINION..

No, I mean by the second game any hope for a playoff run or anything substantial was gone.. The was no real reason outside of personal pride to give much push. In other words they wanted tee time and not kickoff time lol. Did I say something about the first game? (Sorry getting over Covid) if I did I shouldn’t have last year has no impact on this year. if I am honest I am shocked the Pats have been as good as they have been this year. I expected a playoff run, I never expected them be challenging the Bills for the division. Like you any outcome won’t shock me either. Again my main hope is both sides avoid major injuries so the playoff push for both teams continues.

I’ve watched the game twice. They were always sending 5 or more every on every play. It was more to run stop but 5 or more is a blitz.. also as I mentioned they punted ONCE. If you sell out for one thing it opens up others. That’s why the Pats switched to a heavy screen passing game. One game isn’t a trend but the game plan by the team. That’s why I asked I doubt be the same game plan for Buffalo.

Last year the D had given up. We had Cam “I can’t throw anymore” Newton and an O incapable of doing anything. This year they ALL seem to feel it and think the group is special. Pats also had a rag tag group by the final meeting. that said new year and no one knows what will or could happen. I just want no major injuries to derail either teams playoff hopes.

I also said take Allen out of the equation for runs. Your team ran Jags -9 times jets -21 times Colts - 11 times NO - 24 times You noticing what I am Hapless? When your team runs you win, when you don’t you lose. Mind you Jets are awful and NO O was beyond inept but still you ran you won.. the team was balanced, when it wasn’t the team was not and lost. Again I was never saying you can’t run just that the Bills for whatever reason never stick with it and against good teams, especially in the playoffs, will come back to bite them hard especially against a well coached team like NE. I will say this now if you run less than 15 times (not counting Allen) on Monday night the Bills will lose. I’m a Pats fan, I was talking about Jo Juan Williams and another CB that I think was cut.. but yet we have Jones and Jackson as starters and both undrafted was weird how they found them but wigged badly on second rounders..

1. That Hilliard run at the end of the half was a hiccup. They were expecting a pass and the Titans blocked amazingly well. Inexcusable but was also the last points they scored. 2. Yes the Pats run D was scary bad yesterday. Does Buffalo have the patience and or O line to do the same thing? 3. The Titans were blitzing all game and the Pats only punted once. Not sure if their D game plan is one to follow. 4. Did you watch the same game? Come the second half their D was worn down and Pats O started breaking big plays on both running and passing. They had 9 literally on the line stop the run. 5. I don’t know what your basing that on? Did you break down all 12 starts? The last 2? How did you get that breakdown? No snowing, wasn’t enough to accumulate but it was snowing.. had snow flurries all game.

It was cold and snowing the entire game yesterday.. lol

Stevenson is also a bigger threat to catch the ball as well. My biggest fear with both of them is picking up the blitz. They both earlier in the year almost got Jones killed by missing the blitzer. (I think every team worried about that with their backs or at least one back lol) oh if only we had White for this game.. he make Jones even better.. (like Your White on IR for the year