PatsFanNH

Lol Does Grogan count since he played in the first SB and I do believe Eason started the next year as well. Tony Eason was ruined by that SB, he had a lot of promise but became shell shocked after the Bears SB. I remember the Raymond Berry song that year lol.. Also technically Zolak was a starter for a game along with I think Miller in 92.. Also your question should also depend on the age of the fan your talking to. What 30 year old is going to know much about anything before Parcells?

Getting back to the original post, I do believe it depends on who is playing. As an example: The NFL loves the Pats in prime time because: A. NE fans will watch B. Other fans will watch because they hate the Patriots. I at times believe the NFL makes crap up to make them a bigger villain just to keep people watching them. And for a long time as the White Hat they had Indy and P Manning (then it went to the Broncos) I am not sure who the ultimate GOOD guy is now. But I think you get my drift, I don't think they rig games but they influence people's opinions about teams to get them to watch more than just their home team

Jacoby only threw for 102 yards.. So I don't exactly call that a threat like Brady back there. (Jimmy G may be a threat but as many have said to small of a sample to tell for sure)

This game is different, those games you had to pick your poison, let the RB kill you or let Brady pick you apart. With with Jimmy G or Jacoby that fear will not be there IMO.

An expansion team inToronto would make sense, they are huge in CFL. But the Bills need be in Buffalo... It's tradition.

I did not know that, and why is it always LA.. No team has ever thrived there. (Shrug)

😔 I never said how sad it was just that I know what your going threw.. And that analogy sucks.. But probably cus part of it hit to close to home..

Wasn't looking for any empathy.. At least you guys are not hearing rumors of your team moving elsewhere. The Bills will be better it's all a cyclacle thing. Just have to hang tight and hold on. Like you guys told me it can go from bad to great in a blink of an eye.

Lol sadness as far as being a sports fan? My friend I lived threw the late 80's and early 90's where there were rumors the pats were going to move to LA and we sucked so bad that the stench would kill you... So I know sadness as a sports fan or maybe deep hopelessness that was..

Bills were the only AFC East team (fans) that didn't act like jerks in the old Sullivan Stadium. You guys were pretty damn cool when you were kicking our asses with Kelly and company. I can not say the same thing for Phin fans with Marino and def can't say that for Jet fans EVER. Every time I met a Bills fan back then you were pretty awesome and supportive, telling me how you remembered being where we were at the time..

LMAO good catch, I must have misspelled it and good old auto correct to the rescue lol

Just like you have had an issue with READING comprehension. Must be sad having to cheer for a borderline hit in order to hope of reimbursing a player. As I said I thought people calling for P Manning be targeted were also wrong. have a nice day.

Why just to annoy you of course! lol I am still here because well I can be. And you are drawing a very fine line there my friend.. A very fine line.

But that's NOT what I was talking about. I was talking about fans putting stupid posts up actively wanting one of YOUR teams players (your being whatever team you cheer for) to actually go do it. For example if Miami fans said "I hope Su goes out there and stomps on Tyrod knee" that fan is a tool, Su actually doing it is a dirty player.

Are they fans? Did they actively banter of wanting someone to hurt another player? No? Then we are not talking about the same thing. Not sure but maybe the thumb got raped up between the two seeing him??

I was just talking about fans wanting to see someone get injured as being a tool. And that's the last I'll say on the subject as it has regressed badly. (And I am just as guilty for it happening as anyone else.)

#2 I can see if that Jacoby, but if it's Jimmy G he is much more a pocket passer like Brady. For him I would say don't allow the quick hits to negate the pass rush maybe?

What doesn't make sense Gugny?

Then as fans you have lost your way. Hope for lots of QB hits and sacks sure.. Hoping that it hurts the person a tool move.. Like pats fans rooting for P manning last year get his neck hurt again.. I called them tools as well...

Maybe if I rephrase for ya Jaur you will finally get it. I was saying why act like a freakin loser tool and want your team go out there and hurt someone? Why because you have such a loser mentality that's the only way to get enjoyment out of it then stop watching! NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME ITSELF ABOUT THE FAN.. Get it ? Damn.. I will die laughing if we talked all this time about Jimmy G and it ends up being Jacoby behind center lol

Hmm I'm in NH and seems most are taking the game as a "it doesn't really matter" it's the last game without Brady and win or lose they are still alone in first place. I think the attention would be different had they lost one of the first three games. (Just My Opinion of course)

Wasn't meant for that specific QB, I was talking about the general messages you see like "I don't care if we win I just hope we injure player X he is such a XYZ" those thpe post like the original here was similar not exact but close. I don't get those.. THATS NOT WHAT MY COMMENT WAS TALKJNG ABOUT! Not unless fans on message boards some how go out there and tell a player what to do! My god I said nothing about sportsmanship I was talking about being some sort of NOTMAL fan and just cheering for your team and not a damn injury! Wth so hard to understand about that!

Thank You I knew there were a few in there. I wonder out of all those close games how many were lost do to poor discipline by the players. (Taking a stupid Personal foul penalty etc. I remember one year where the Bills self distracted like that with Rex at the helm. Team lost complete composure.)

Any break down on how many of the 3 point games were when he was the bills coach?

Lmao BUT THAT WAS MY POINT! Why wish injury on another teams player!! Lol nothing more nothing less! Wishing injury on a player kind of makes that person seem rather sad because your pretty much saying "we suck unless we find a way to get X player out of the game" I state agin I will never understand loser thinking like that! Wishing injuries on someone a loser thing to do no matter who you cheer for. Ahh your the type of Loser mentality I was talking about thank you for your fine example.