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Well Bountygate I think they did something, but my point was the HC who was found by his own investigation to have nothing to do with it was suspended for a year. (Also if I remember correctly almost all his suspensions were either revoked or greatly reduced on appeal. ) As for the players taking him to court, I think the Appeal win in deflategate was the FIRST win the NFL has had in court in years against the NFLPA. (I remember hearing something about that but can't remember the exact details.) As for the CBA I think that's why the owners let Roger Goodell be so incompetent they Know He keeps handing out suspensions like he does the NFLPA will negotiate that clause out and give the owners $$ back. $$ all the owners truly care about. (Oh and I want stay on other teams as I like most fans am passionate about defending my own team. While others (that I neither like or hate) I can be neutral on.

A lot do, but I think everyone has a story how THEY became a fan. I kinda remember the song for the Pats in 86 (made me laugh) was a twist of "leader of the pack (Pats)" and was about the HC and players.. hmm if Tippett had BB as his DC I bet dollars to donuts he been a first ballot HOFer. He was so misused by the team.

Lmao COMRAD THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE! Dah! Lmao

I agree I just thought it was a good non call as it could have gone either way, (orl both) esp with the Falcon ripping the Pats players helmet off he probably been the one flagged as it was the most obvious. (Then people scream why wasn't it called on both) I disagree he grabbed Long around the neck and forced him to the ground. Even Troy Aikman saw that and he is usually blind. Also I saw on the Falcons site it is within 1 yard they can block. (Guy quoted the rule.)

Wow! Now the Pats have ability inside a NEUTRAL site to effect the other teams headset. Also Matty Ice and their O scored 22 points THAT IS IT! And the Pats outgained them by 200 yards and ran double the amount of plays on O the Falcons did. So the D pass rush was GASSED and the coverage was softer and allowed Brady get inna Rythm once that happened they were screwed the Pats Oneas unstoppable, add in some dumb ass play calls like throwing it on 3rd and 1 with a 16 point lead and getting a strip sack and well the rest is history. No cheating involved if you just look at the numbers you see what happened

I said nothing about the Pats, I just said his office is incompetent. I literally chose Ray Rice (Raven) where he said "we never got that tape." When they did and it was proven. (I thought at the time a screw up which is bad enough, now I think the man just outright lied.) Then I chose BountyGate (Saints) where he suspended Sean peyton even though his OWN investigation said he was completely innocent. 🤦🏻‍♂️ Then you can add on the Giants Punter who they KNEW about for a year his domestic abuse and never did anything. I can keep going with NON Pats examples of his OFFICE Incompetence if you like. I know he is the hit man for the Owners but these examples hurt the image of the league and none were owner driven to hide or not punish etc. (except maybe the Punter, but I doubt the Giants cared that much about a PUNTER!)

^^^ this and fans who don't say " your stupid TB12 is a gawd" or something like that if god forbid you think they could done something better. Or worse you defend them when they are playing bad (KC game 2 years ago.. that was hell on pats boards)

What makes it worse IMO is the constant mess ups in his office. From the RaybRice incident "we never got the tape" to Bountygate where he suspended the HC for a year even though he was cleared of having any knowledge of said activity. The Commish office has been horrid on every investigation no matter what team it was on. I can't remember a more incompetent Commish in my life!

Julien should been fired a month ago if not sooner. He is awful with young players. As for the turnout it be ok, I will not say a great turnout though.

I think the fan base has grown from TB12 and BB. Just like the Bills fan base grew with Kelly and Levy. When they leave the bandwagon fans will leave but a lot will stay as they are now fans. (I became a fan in 1986 with Eason and the Pats squishing the fish and then getting stomped by the Bears. i remained a fan even threw the Ron Rustvyears God did he suck!)

Lmao we did have scrubs back then!! Lol right up till when Bledsoe was drafted they all sucked! Hell I wanted Zoe to start since he shows more heart than the other guys playing the position back then.

Did you see the stands after they won? The stadium was still practically full! The Pats played a home game in the SB. The Falcon fans should be ashamed of that. But as someone else said a lot more parties in these cities. Also it's the NEW ENGLAND Patriots they have not been the Boston Patriots for what now 50 years or so?

I live on the North shore just over the border in NH it's a good 2 hours for me every game day. (Thank you traffic) I am calling your BS As if you were truly in Boston you would KNOW getting out of that city in the early 2000 was a freakin joke! The Big dig had screwed up all the streets still and was a nightmare so yes took a damn long time get out of that city and into Foxborough. Also BS you had "Pats fans" friends saying that's it. THE Parade was a small part of it the Rally was where everyone wanted to be and where the HUGE crowd was. Also the Parade route was from Foxoborough TO Boston so you didn't see ALL the people if you were there and paying attention.

Now THAT one I agree with! There was not 1 Patriot fan not happy see the Giants eliminated this year. The Giants are the true Patriot Killer. Well then the Mannings in General be more likely keep us up at night as I am sure in 2006 the Pats beat the Bears and pretty sure they beat Carolina last year as well.. (although that AFC Game last year was amazing if you like good D football!) so with the Mannings together that's 4 more and they be 9-0 in SB.. and you thought you hated them now if THAT was the case you dispose them! (Losing is good sometimes...)

I know I never seen acting like that befor even OBJ was like WOW! Lol

I went LOL.. my point was look at 2001, THAT will be Buffalo when the Bills finally break threw someday. It's not right compare the 5th to a teams 1st. The 1st is ALWAYS ALWAYS more special! I was there too, and you couldn't MOVE at all near the stage it wa sthat jam packed and every outlet from Boston to Washington State said millions so ill take THEIR head count over YOURS. Also tempted just call you an out right liar then I looked at what you wrote and realized you got 2003 (which sucked as a rolling parade and the Sox were still a never champion) and 2001 mixed up. 2001 was nuts as it was the first championship up here since the Celtics. But it's ok you were here for college and got your years messed up, it happens! Roflmao ok genius you know how far Foxborough is from Boston? It's not a 5 month nuts drive for them to do what you said. It's more like an hour to two hour drive.

Get back to me when the Bills have won their fifth lol. (I do believe there were THOUSANDS for there first win and they had millions upon millions for their first parade. That's actually why they changed it to a rolling parade after that since it was a safety issue.)

Ok who has more playoff wins, more playoff TDs, more 4th quarter playoff comebacks Most yards in the playoffs See the stats you used is because the man been to a 1/3rd of the games Brady has and he isn't. 1/10 of the QB. Flacco never bet the Pats, their D did and one year their RB did. He truly SUCKS NOW!

Lmao you do know Spygate was about WHERE the taping was done not the fact they taped the D signals. tobuse your analogy it's like the Government having a law saying you can sell drugs on the left side of the street but not the right side.. mind you the fact they were still using hand signals when the O had a mic into the QB was just a clear advantage to the O.

Well still he should have known to RUN THE FOOTBALL lmao.. glad he didn't!

Wasn't the Atlanta coach the OC for Seattle who called that play 2 SB AGO?

Flacco will be out of the NFL in 2 years and only thing he owns is an over inflated contract that the idiots in Baltimore paid him. 1 SB appearance and a crappy QB.

Wow! Matt Ryan one of the top 8 QBs in the NFL, I think TT is maybe top 16. He isn't in the same hemisphere as Ryan and that's not saying he is bad!

It was actually BOTH guys grabbing each others Facemask. It was pretty obvious when they showed the replay. So it was a wash as they could have flagged either team for it or both. I actually told my friends watchingbwith me that was a GOOD PI to take as otherwise it's a TD and the games over. This way they had a chance to stop them or even get a turnover themselves.

Wow, most will remember it as the greatest comeback inSB history, as that's how the NFL will promote it. So in 15 years what will be remembered is the Pats came back from 25 points down and won the SB! No one will remember a bad play call here or there, now had say the Falcons thrown an INT in the end zone at the end of the game or missed a last second FG you may be right but this will go down as an epic comeback.