Cynical

I take it watching the same system fail for 4 years is not convincing enough to try something different. Out of curiosity, how many more years of failure will you need before you become convinced the Dick sucks? Typical Bills fan. Willing to accept "good enough". Winning record. Yeesh.

That explains it.

And as Sully pointed out, it was DJ's idea to go with the no huddle. DJ has more input regarding the direction of the offense than some people want to admit. This is his abortion.

I think it's safe to say we can stop blaming Turk for this team offensive woes. Predictability has been a problem since Fairchild. This is on Jauron and his constant demand the offense be simplified (as we learned from both Turk and DJ). I agree with the OP, Jauron has finally got his wish. He dumbed down the O to a point he's comfortable with. Too bad the O is now a joke.

1. Both the Bills OL and QB suck, so we can't just "fix" one. But you did get my point. A better QB would result in a better performance. And the same could be said for the OL. Get a better line, and even Edwards might generate an extra win. With that said, even if the Bills got a great QB and a great OL, they would still be held back by incompetent coaching.

NO. NO NO NO NO NO And HELL NO I would rather take my chances on a coordinator that has never been a HC before.

I think the obvious needs stated. Essentially, if you have one, you do not necessarily need the other. If a team has a great OL (and running attack), then a great QB is not needed. If a team has great QB, then a great OL is not needed. As bad as this team is, would anybody disagree the Bills would perform better if they had a better QB, even with the same OL?

Was he trying to run the no huddle?

Which one? Mangini or Quinn?

Would not be surprised to find out the fiasco of 89 is the biggest reason Kelly did this.

Probably why this is the perfect thread for Steely. What have we turned into ...

Not the first time a HC got to decide or had a voice in deciding who the GM would be. As for why the HC is explaining why he was fired: good for the Browns. Mangini wanted him, Mangini gets to explain why he's gone.

Just so we are clear: after 3 games, you are convinced Fitz will be nothing more than a back up. But after 4+ games this year, and 16 last year, you still think Edwards may be the answer? He just needs more time? Edwards is . At this point, he is a mental midget (football wise). The only chance he has left is to ride the bench this year, and hope a new coaching staff can straighten him out. Then maybe he can develop into a back up QB.

And others pinned their hopes on POS HC, convincing themselves everything was being kept "vanilla" because the Bills did not want to tip their hand before the season started.

The problem seems to be you think the Bills may have taken Trent into consideration when they signed TO. You further seem to believe TO was brought here to solve a problem(s), and that the ticket sales increase was a bonus. Trent's psyche, development, or even what Trent wanted had little to nothing to do in TO's signing. You said it yourself: That's because Trent was not a factor in the decision. Further, you do NOT sign a player to a ONE year contract with the belief he solves a long term problem(s). You sign a player to a ONE year contract to solve a short term problem. Furthermore, look at the factoid that came to light during the game. Jauron allows TO to decide what day to take off, and that day was Friday. This is the guy you are trying to say was signed to help develop Edwards? Also, look at the all the FA signings the Bills did since Jauron has been hired. None of them are/were the marquee type player TO is. Players like Tripplett, Royal, Fowler, and Walker were not marquee signings, but they were signed to multi year contracts. That's because those guys were brought in to "solve" long term problems on the roster. Do NOT underestimate the fact the Bills signed the "QB killer" TO to a ONE YEAR contract. The Bills were looking to solve a short term problem.

There never was any intent. Every time an article came out regarding Coles and the Bills, it was always how the Bills were doing x. The Bills were doing all the talking. Coles and his agent never said squat.

And if anything, Edward fans will be creating new excuses for their boy. Just like the latest is: "Trent was hindered by the no-huddle. We cannot fully evaluate him until he plays using the huddle".

Unfortunately I can see Jauron returning for another year under the right circumstances. One, the Bills suddenly start winning, and achieve a record around .500 Two, the Bills become aggressive and pursue a big name FA QB in the off season. Beyond something like that, Jauron is toast this off season.

Who are you seriously trying to convince that TO was brought here with the single purpose of helping Trent? You are forgetting some real facts ... The Bills originally pursued L. Coles, and had offered him a THREE year contract. When it was leaked, Coles was talking to the Bengals (who were offering a FOUR year contract), the Bills upped their offer to a FOUR year contract. Coles told the Bills to !@#$ off (essentially). Season ticket renewals were tanking at about this time. TO agreed to and signed a ONE year contract. When the Bills announced the signing TO, in the same press release, the Bills also "conveniently" announced the ticket office would be open extended hours. The Bills knew exactly what kind of buzz TO would create when they signed him. TO was signed to stop the bleeding. The fact he "solved" the WR problem (for only a year) was a bonus. Plus Jauron could no longer use the excuse he had no talent. Trent's development? Probably never came up in the discussion.

No it's not.

Oh, hell no. Saban is just fine where he is at.

A real HC that has a clue on how to lead does NOT let the players decide on when they can take days off. In fact, given the state of the offense this year, this behavior is unfathomable. I always wondered about this statement. DJ may be intelligent, but he seems to lack some basic common sense.

Not sure what you are talking about, unless you are confusing the time when the Bills D suffered numerous injuries to both LB and DL positions. In effort to put the best 7 guys up front, Corey switched up to a 2-5 defense, and threw CB into the middle. This was a variation of the 2-5 defense the Rams had run/ran (devised by Shumur). IIRC, CB made it quite clear and known he was not happy playing in the middle, and the only reason he did it was due to the unusual circumstances (inuries).

Kiffin is a !@#$ing retard, and deserves whatever punishment he gets. He's been running his mouth ever since he took the HC job at Tenn.

The Auburn faithful are calling. They are looking for new recruits. Tin foil helmets are required.