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The team has not even played its first regular season game. Why bother about COTY? I can remember back in 2008, after the Bills started 4-0, the fans running around yammering about how Jauron should win his 2nd COTY award. How did that work out? Let's stop worrying about what kind of nicknames we need to come up, and what kind of awards and accolades the team should/might get. The season is about to start. Let's enjoy the season for what it is. I fully expect this team to do better than a lot people are predicting. Everything else will take care of it self in time.

Accountability is a funny thing. Sometimes it works in your favor, and sometimes it works against you. If the "experts" are more right than wrong, do you still plan to revisit this thread? If you have the right to hold the "experts" accountable for being wrong, they have the right to say "I told you so" when they are right. Can everybody who is contributing to this thread handle being told "I told you so" if the Bills do reach such a bad record? Or do you plan on disappearing, changing screen names, etc...? And we wonder why people get frustrated and leave.

This sounds like a Jauron apologist all over again. They were quite happy having the cool/collected Jauron and were glad the Bills did not have that spitter/drooler Cowher. Until proven otherwise, Gailey is not quite the HC Shanahan was/is. Gailey has the opportunity to change that assessment starting in a few days. I'm looking forward to the season. We may not make the playoffs, but I believe the Bills will shock 1-2 teams, and scare the sh*t out of a few others.

Whats next? A play from last years Cleveland Browns game?

To clarify, I have no idea if he would have been good, great, or lousy. I just think making a definitive judgment based on 1-2 games is laughable.

Not even close. Ole Miss is like the Wisconsin/Minnesota of the SEC. They produce a winner every now and then, and that's about it.

Pardon me, but how many games did Butler play @ RT? And you know for a fact he was a "great" tackle based on such a small sample size? This board kills me.

Oh goody. Yet another "We need to come up with a cheesy nickname for ________" thread. We must hurry. Nobody will know who Spiller, Lynch, Jackson, and possibly Bell are until we come up with some name to call them.

And, if they end up being unfortunately right, do you plan on posting the same quotes to their sites and praising their analysis? God forbid, they have an opinion that differs from yours. I love the fact Chan is trying his best to install a winning attitude, and he will not tolerate any BS. But until that translates into wins on the field, the Bills have 10 years of 'suckitude' dogging them. Respect is "earned", not given. And in the NFL, the teams earn it by winning.

I don't agree that 16 team conferences need to happen or are the way to go from a football perspective. I think it's too big. As for how long it will take to get there, you do realize the Big East is a 16 (17 if you count the associate member) team conference already? 11 of those teams play FB, 8 play in the Big East, 2 play at a lower level, and 1 plays as an independent. I don't think you will see this change unless the conference is forced to. If anything will happen, IMHO, it will happen in about 5 years. That's how long I think the Big XII-2 will last until it implodes. Texas, Texas A&M, and OU are the only teams that made out. Nebraska has already stated they are not going to pay the exit fees (claiming since Texas started the nonsense, Nebraska cannot be held responsible for leaving the conference). The rest of the smaller schools are beginning to realize they just got effed over.

It's Kenny !@#$ing Powers!

If you include the playoffs, then Dallas went 3-2 vs the Cardinals during 98-99. The Cowboys won both regular season match ups, but unfortunately, lost their playoff game against the Cards. Not a really a knock against Chan. Expecting a first year HC to beat the same team 3 times in one season is a tall order.

If you got the time and desire, than it would definitely be something I would look forward to!

Hear frigging hear!! Word. Agreed. +1,000,000 Absolutely this. :thumbsup:

This is not entirely correct. One of the reasons Jauron promoted Turk to OC after Fairchild left was to promote continuity. From 2007 to 2009, Edwards may have had 3 different OC's, but he ran the same base offense with the same signal calls. IIRC, there was even an article back in early 2008 where Turk states he kept the same calls as Fairchild to minimize any "new" material the offense would have to learn. Given the time line of events prior to the 2009 season, there was absolutely no way AVP had the time to rewrite the calls.

How about Spiller, Lynch, and Jackson? or Jackson, Lynch, and Spiller? or Lynch, Spiller, and Jackson? Crazy right?

Who gives a crap what the media does and does not report? Does media coverage impact the actual won/loss records? Personally, I would rather go 14-2 with little to no media coverage than go 7-9 with the media and analysts dissecting what went wrong.

Thing looks like a practice target you buy from a sporting goods store.

Actually, he does. IIRC, he was the "Lightning" in Clemson's "Thunder and Lightning" backfield (James Davis being "Thunder").

Can you say CON-TI-NU-I-TY? Remember when that buzzword was going to save the franchise?

Agreed. The guy has yet to play an NFL season, and people are desperate to hang a nickname on the guy. I got one: Nunn as in, nick name not needed.

Hear, hear Or for those that have no clue what I just wrote: +1 This

Except the 'instability' Trent has suffered during his pro career is somewhat overblown. Yes, Trent had 3 OC during Jauron's tenure. What's missing from the article (and this discussion) is the fact Trent was running the same base offense during those 3 years. How soon we forget when Fairchild left and the Turk was promoted, it was done with the concept of continuity in mind. IIRC, there was an article where Turk said he was using the same exact signal calls as Fairchild did in order to keep continuity, and to reduce the amount of "new" material the offense had to learn.

Been hearing that phrase now for 25+ years. I started hearing it during the Air Coryell years. I heard it again when the West Coast offense came rolling out. Heard it again when teams started running the Run 'N Shoot offense. Run, stop the run. One of the basics of football.

Bad case of Jauronism. I get the Wood to center, and then Hangartner to G or back up. But why Levitre to RG? He plays LG just fine. Leave him alone.