Cynical

Only to those that were desperately seeking for something that wasn't named JP.

No, hell no, and just say NO.

I read as much of this article as I could stomach, and it was pretty evident the guy is a freaking idiot on so many levels, it's a wonder he still remembers how to breath.

Not only does he have much more to work with, but having that talent and producing another 6-10 season is not going to cut it. Anything less than a winning record, and at the very least, his coaching seat will be on the "warm" side next year.

"Well ... that is ... that's ... you're supposed to be here to protect me." "What are we protecting you from? A wrong cheeseburger?" Absolute classic.

Ralph's cheap.

Black Sabbath - "Sweet Leaf" (Do I really need to explain this?) And this (see above): http://youtu.be/-sFK0-lcjGU

You and caracara need to get together. Both of you have no problem drumming conspiracy theories to excuse away VY's issues.

Pfft. Rockdale County GA school system started last week. Yes, late July.

As bad as they were under DeHaven, they were god awful under his replacement Ronnie Jones. I blame it all on Wade. IIRC, Wade treated the special teams like they were a red headed step child.

Are both on the table, or just the one?

nvm

Looks like you picked a bad time to stop drinking ...

Skrillex, Skrillex, and pretty much anything by Skrillex. Watch out when he gets going. His ability to .. um .. twist that knob, and um ... punch that button is just stunning.

Let's get some things straight. I do not hate Vince Young. I was against the signing of Vince Young. However it is the same rationale I would use if the Bills were interested in acquiring somebody like P. Harvin from Minny. Harvin has issues surrounding him. If by some weird chance Harvin would suddenly become available, I hope and wish the Bills do not spend the energy and resources trying to acquire him. Let some other team figure out if those issues are isolated and/or have been put behind him. Let that be another team's "problem" to sort out. Vince Young has baggage. That baggage is a history of issues that cause a distraction. I was against the signing of Vince Young because of this baggage. Let some other team figure out if Vince's issues were isolated and/or are behind him. Which bring's me to this point. I, like 99% of the others that frequent here, are fans of the Buffalo Bills. We may squabble, and we may disagree on numerous issues, but we all desire the same thing. We want to see our team raise the Lombardi Trophy at the end of the SB. As fans, we will discuss a lot of things, especially players. Those topics will include all aspects of the player - on field, off field, positive and negative. Vince Young is now a member of the Buffalo Bills. His past issues will be discussed because that is a part of who he is, rightfully or wrongfully. Accept it. It's not going to go away. You, on the other hand, are a fan of Vince Young. You have stated this openly and with honesty. I commend you that. Vince Young does not need you defending him on this board with posts of conspiracy and smear agendas. Your attempts at defending VY with such posts are amusing. But that can happen when a person is a fan of the "player" and not of the "team". Vince Young will prove himself, one way or the other, all on his own by his own actions. If by chance, Vince Young is waived by the Bills, you can follow him like a lost puppy dog to his next team, and attempt to convince that fan base that all of his issues are nothing but a smear agenda and conspiracy generated. As for now, since Vince Young is a Bill, I wish him nothing but the best of luck. I hope VY has overcome and moved beyond those issues that have plagued him in the past. I also look forward to TC and the regular season to see if VY can contribute in helping the Bills reach the ultimate goal in whatever capacity he can.

FYI: The Titans called in a psychologist that met Vince at his home after Vince went missing after one of his tantrums. Teams do not get psychologists involved just so they can "smear" a player.

Not maple syrup, "pancake" syrup. Log Cabin, Mrs. Buttersworth, etc ... High Fructose Corn syrup, water, and an assortment of artificial flavorings. Yummy.

So the entire north must be like NYC. I live in the south. Can't wait to get the hell out. Sun? Don't you mean insufferable heat and humidity? Sweet tea = sugar water with some tea flavoring added. If you like sweet tea, you probably could drink pancake syrup right out of the bottle.

Yet Adams had no problem releasing Young after the 2010 season was over. If Fisher and his staff truly was the problem, why not keep him? Fisher was already gone when Adams pulled the plug on Young. Please, just stop. You went from Homer to stupid with that statement. Fisher may have not wanted Young, but I seriously doubt it was due in part because Texas recently beat USC for the title. The Titans drafted SS Michael Griffin the following year, and he played on the championship team with Vince Young. You do not hear any bad news report about Griffin. Its called "adversity", and how it's dealt with. You do not need video when you have witnesses. And spare me the "That was all Jeff Fisher" nonsense. The media do get to talk to the players.

He has also disclosed he "believes" Jeff Fisher, Jeff Fisher's coaching staff, the Titans owner, the Nashville police dept, and the Mayor of Nashville were all involved in some giant conspiracy against VY. Edit: I think he also mentioned the media being part of the conspiracy.

It is, but it's not easy. My wife is pretty convinced my present employer is one (the employer is a massive nut job). (Side note: The wife has a Master in Clinical Psychology, and has been doing assessments and treatments for about 15-20 years) Unlike somebody who is Bi-Polar, there is no pill to help in treatment. Treatment is strictly up to the clinician to perform, and they are doing it on a person who absolutely believes there is nothing wrong with their behavior, no matter how irrational their behavior can be.

Was he benched after those 2 games? No? The fact he threw only 27 times in those 2 games is irrelevant because he played 7 more games. Look at the aggregate. Hence, 1st vs 2nd half. The Bills threw the ball 431 times that year. JP chucked it 429 of those 431. Since JP threw every ball except 2 for the entire season, if the Bills had intended to minimize JP by having him throw less (as you are trying to claim - 27 times in 2 games!), you would see a shift down in the total number of attempts from the first half to second half. But that does not happen. 213 vs 218. Slight up tick. But wait! Since passing is only one aspect of an offense, we need to look at the other: rushing. It's possible that JP could have approximately the same number of pass attempts, and a smaller role, if the Bills ran more offensive plays in the second half vs the first half. Theoretically, the passing attempts would stay flat, but the number of rushing attempts would go up. Survey says: 212 vs 208. Oops, that didn't happen either. Slight down tick. Compare that to 2011 Bills: 1st half - 261 passes to 217 running 2nd half - 317 passes to 174 running That's a shift, and it matches the perception many people have that the Bills started to abandon the running game in the second part of the year. Yes, but there is a difference in doing it once a game vs 3-4 a game. From the first half of the season to the second, JP threw the ball the same number of times, he had approx the same completion %, but he passed for 300+ more yards in the second half. During the same year, they ran the ball for 212 times and av 100 yds/game in the first half. In the second half, they ran the ball 208 times, and the av per game fell to 93. Yeah, something changed, but not what you trying to pass off. Jesus. This just proves how effective JP was. He threw 3 TDs. How was the running game? 37 times, 2.7 avg, ZERO TD's. Who did the Bills rely on to win that game? This has what to do with anything? I haven't disagreed with this. Losman was only good at chucking it down field. When the team started to do that more often in the second half of 2006, he became more productive. What a shocking concept and revelation. Losman was a one dimensional player, and when the opposing defenses finally figured that out, his numbers and his career went down hill.

And I'll try again. In order to clarify what I meant when I said they "opened up" the playbook, I stated they had Losman take more chances down field. Here's the exact quote: "Tip: When I said they opened up the playbook I meant they were allowing him to take more chances down field as opposed to the dink 'n dunk Jauron wanted" I thought that statement was pretty clear and obvious, especially with the inclusion of "dink 'n dunk". But apparently, you are not getting it. down field - long pass attempts dink 'n dunk - short to medium pass attempts I never said they had JP throw MORE, but they were making him throw LONGER. The Miami game was an example of that. It is when passing attempts are used as a basis for your argument as you have been doing. JP complained at the bye, which came after game 7. So, a comparison between the halves is not far fetched. They ran the ball and threw the ball approx the same number of times in the first half and in the second half. So, yes, JP did not throw the ball MORE in the second half, nor did the team run the ball more. The ratio stayed the same. Other than passing or running the ball, what else can a team do on offense to run a play? The numbers stayed the same across both halves.

Too bad he didn't really prove it. As I previously replied to him: In 2006, JP threw the ball 212 times in the first 8 games. He threw the ball 217 times in the last games. About same amount or slight increase, but definitely not a decrease. Since passing is only one part of the offense, let's look at rushing. In 2006, the Bills ran the ball 212 times in the first 8 games They ran the ball 208 times in the last games. About the same amount, or a slight decrease, but definitely not an increase. See above and try again. Here's the part I am disputing. Unless this coach was a part of the Bills coaching staff in 2006, or has direct knowledge via someone who was part of the team in 2006, he has no idea why the playbook was set up the way it was. The reason I dispute it I find it really hard to believe Dick Jauron, based on game film from one year where JP ran Mularkey's "Go-Go Gadget" offense and one off season, knew, without question, JP was a mental midget. This includes that everybody on the team was being introduced to a new offensive system before the 2006 season. The same Dick Jauron that spent 2.5 years and fired an OC in the process, beofre he finally realized Trent Edwards was just as big a moron. Sorry. I am not buying it.

This is something we can both agree on.