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Wow, such logical rational thought. We must ban you. The irrational must get their "meat". Even if Reed did not mean the "pay me" quote to be tongue in cheek, I still wouldn't fault him. How much does it take the present BUFFALO Bills for him to support the team? Bumpkis sounds about right. What will it take for Reed to support the theoretical Toronto Bills? Gonna have to pay the man.

Means the Kool Aid is very addicting. Psh. The last time the Bills had so much "young and hungry" talent was during the Jauron years. That worked out well, didn't it?

The only thing "fishy" about the party was the NCAA. The NCAA is a corrupt broken POS that needs to be tossed to the curb.

There's one in every crowd. 47

You have missed my point. This can said about any team during any close game at any point in the game. We both made assumptions about the same game. Assumptions in regard to game outcomes are meaningless. Good or bad. So, no, the Bills were not a team that could have been 9-7 or 10-6. Lets take a closer look at the Jets lost. Everybody wants to blame Rogers. Did he have a good game? No he did not. Neither did some of the other players. The Bills offense that game was marginal. Third down efficiency: 22% Fourth down efficiency: 0% Red Zone efficiency: 0% * Goal to Go efficiency: 0% * EJ 's completion rate: 45% * Disclosure: efficiency based on scoring TDs from that point. The Bills made 3 trips into the Jets red zone and walked away with 3 FG. Think about that. 3 trips into the red zone, ZERO TDs. Rogers did not lose that game, the team lost that game. Agreed. Looking forward to seeing the young players develop. It was the case. But what idiot bets the season on a QB that is one concussion away from retirement?

Possibly. Crossman has a history of producing bad ST. What makes you think a couple of players will all of a sudden fix that deficiency? QB's: There were question marks going into the start of last season about this group. By the end of the year, the only question that was answered was that EJ has the highest potential. Beyond that, question marks still remain. Continuity is only valid if the situation is good. Continuing in a bad situation is still bad. IMHO, Hackett was part of the problem last year. He still remains a question mark. Despite no longer being a rookie, Marrone still has question marks surrounding him after making numerous questionable decisions last year. The biggest being running an uptempo no huddle attack with a rookie OC, a rookie QB, and 2 rookie WR. Watkins: The homers have already classified him as a significant upgrade and play maker. Over who? Watkins hasn't played a single down yet in the NFL. It is possible Watkins could be "that guy" from day one, but it is not very probable. Even Megatron and J. Jones took a year or two to develop. Watkins will become a great player, in a year or two. Just probably not this year, even "on paper".

This is purely a case of delusion or of people flat out choosing to live in fantasy land. The Bills were 6-10 last year. The Bills were not "almost" 9-7 or "almost" 10-6. They were. 6-10. That's the record. Trying to claim anything different is playing the "if only" and "shoulda, coulda, woulda" game. The reality of playing the "if only" and "shoulda, coulda, woulda" can be applied to any game by any team at anytime. Atlanta? If only the Falcons had not fumbled the ball. No overtime needed. Patriots? They punted six times that game. If only they converted one of those third downs. No late drive and FG would have been needed. I could produce more examples, but I think I got my point across. Let's stop deluding ourselves into believing last years team was really a "10-6 team disguised as a 6-10 team". Here's hoping (at the very least) they are a 6-10 team on the verge of becoming a "winning team" this year, and a playoff(+) team next year.

Was it a mistake? Or was it a transition/evaluation thing? Actually, if Pegula does in fact become the team owner, regardless of the team record, I could see him granting Whaley/Marrone at least one more year to show him they are the guys to turn it around.

Very well could have been. Stadium capacity is listed as 47,000 and MLB was looking to expand around the time the drawing was made. http://www.hardballtimes.com/smart-growth-and-mlb-a-virtual-history/ According to the original article, the stadium drawing was done in 1958, but the Bills were not awarded until 1959.

Ah, no. That is incorrect. Jerry Jones bought the team in February of 1989, and fired Tom Landry soon after. The Cowboys went 1-15 in 1989 under the direction of HC Jimmy Johnson. Landry's last season as HC was 1988, and the Cowboys went 3-13. In 1987, the Cowboys went 7-8 (strike year, replacement players). In 1986, the Cowboys went 7-9. He was good as gone. While I think I get the point you are trying to make, this is a mischaracterization. The Bills did not get "stuck" with Whitner. They chose him. They could have just as easily chose Ngata. The fact the Bills chose Whitner over Ngata is more of a reflection of just how terrible Levy/Jauron were, and not draft position. IMHO, the Bills could have just as easily had the first overall pick, and Levy/Jauron would still have found a way to !@#$ it up (i.e. They probaly still would have drafted Whitner, and reference Maybin). As you said, Lewis played better than EJ "statistically", but my eyes tell me there is nothing about his play that suggests he is anything more than a backup at best.My eyes tell me EJ has a higher potential. He may never become a "great" QB, but I do think he will better than Thad.

They don't have to be morons. All they have to be is stubborn. I have no idea what Patriot game you watched last year, but the one I watched, that "fast paced" offense could barely get out of it's own way. The Bills scored 3 TD that game, one by the Bills defense. And speaking of those 4 first games, the Bills scored 21, 24, 20 and 23 points for an average of 22 points a game. Not exactly a "high powered" scoring machine.

Trying not to derail this thread: You just proved Webster's point. In regards to the part in bold, Why do you have to have some form of offsides?

Because circumstances change. A 3 year window suddenly becomes a 2 year window with one year gone. Not really hard to fathom why he would suddenly take on more risk. The flaw in your logic is in bold. Whaley is a GM NOW. The only thing that guarantees his future as a GM is to "win". Failure to win could mean an end to his job as a GM now with no future guarantees he will get a second chance. in short, most GMs get 3-5 years to prove themselves. Out of sheer bad luck, Whaley only has 2 years, and one has passed already. Being conservative is not in his best interest as a future GM, IMO.

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Obviously you do not get it. It's not 50-50. 50-50 implies all questions and concerns have been satisfactorily answered. In your case, they may have been. In cases like mine, they have not.

Other than an attention seeking whore, who cares? Talk about an inferiority complex and the "woe is me" syndrome ... Woe is us because the Bills are not relevant outside of WNY Woe is us because the Bills do not play on Monday Night or Sunday Night football. Who gives a rats ass. Stop worrying what ESPN, Fox Sports, CBS, or any other national sports coverage media is reporting about. If the Bills generate a winning season, it will have nothing to do with the Bills playing on Monday or Sunday nights, or if the Bills are relevant in the national media. How has the franchise accepted it? Since 2000, how many GMs have there been? How many HC? To a point, I do believe that. However, how do you think he will react when the criticism and shots starts coming from the fan base? Will he ban banners and signs like TD did? Or will he threaten to move the team unless the fan base stops? This could be a good or bad thing, especially if they get short on patience. If you had studied him as closely as you said you did, you would already know this answer. No, he would not. As owner of the USFL Generals, he was hands on and made some notable questionable knee jerk decisions. In the end, he was an utter disaster for the team and league. Furthermore, by stating his time in the USFL as proof of his ability to run a sports team, Trump has further cemented he is a complete buffoon when it comes to football. Be careful what you ask for, you may get it. Guys like him do not go away quietly, and there are no do overs.

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Except they were trying to rebuild during those times. When TD was the GM, he did not want to spend 2-3 years drafting rookies in order to rebuild, He wanted to win ASAP, so he rebuilt the team via free agency. Bledsoe was supposed to have been the next franchise QB. As for Walker and Dockery, those signings were serious attempts to plug holes in the line. Both of them just finished playing out their first NFL contracts. Both of them were expected to be long term solutions.

No it doesn't, because I think you missed his point. The Bills spent/used 3 draft picks to get this guy (a 1st in 2014, a 1st in 2015, and 4th in 2015). If Watkins becomes a bust, that was a heavy price to pay. The OP made numerous valid points. Just because you do not agree with him, he's not the one that's annoying.

Three things: Yes, it really is about the new owners and what they want (assuming there is one in place by the end of the season.) If the new owners want their "man" as the GM or if the new owners are like Dan Snyder/Jerry Jones, Whaley is good as gone. IMHO, the only thing that will save Doug and his staff will be a winning season this year and the playoff starting next year. The only way Whaley will save Doug's job is by providing talent.

This is actually a problem created by the coaching staff. It's not like they lost their 1st and 2nd string QB, and had to go out and grab UDFA off the street during the season just to field a QB. Going into the season, the UDFA WAS the 2nd string QB. This was a disaster waiting to happen.

Wow. Now professional teams make up crap. You just can't accept JF may have some real life issues. Have fun in your little bubble of a world.

Can't say for certain, but my answer is: "There is a high probability it is a fake."

You mad bro? Pretty ironic Mike Evans got drafted in the top 10, and Johnny did not. You have made some pretty idiotic posts in the past (Williams for Skelton), but are you really trying to suggest the OP created a fake scouting report and posted it on the web just to diss Manziel? You do realize there is positive info in that report? And Nick Saban called AJ the best college QB. Period. Let me guess, you believed your mother when she said you were the best looking kid in the whole world. Accept it. JF was going to struggle regardless where he went. He is a rookie with a massive ego that got away with crap at the collegiate level. If we believe the report as legit, all his "bad" traits are fixable. The biggest issue will be his ego. Having that knocked down a couple of pegs could actually be a good thing. If he is as competitive as you believe, that will motivate him to prove everybody wrong. That means doing the off-season workouts, studying the full playbook, etc.